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Daemon
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Cromwell's Day

As a British general, Puritan statesman, and Lord Protector of England from 1653-58, Oliver Cromwell is remembered today more for his actions as a general and a statesman than for his efforts within Puritanism. Each year the Cromwell Association holds a special service near Cromwell's statue outside the Houses of Parliament on September 3. It was on this day in 1650 that Cromwell won the battle of Dunbar, and it was on the same day a year later that he won a decisive victory at the battle of Worcester against the Scots. It was also the day on which he died. More...
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England should have chosen republican system.
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And it is shameful how the royalists mutilated exhumed bodies of Cromwell and several other prominent republicans.
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Cromwell screwed up. His started out as a good cause but let in the extremists, and he became the despot he had campaigned against. Like that never happens!

England ended up a puritan theocracy and the English don't do extremism very well. Too intense! They were so put off by all the rules they got rid of his lot and actually invited a king back. That is the effect Cromwell had. Of course when the next king started misbehaving again they chased him off an invited in another one who was properly trained in constitutional monarchy. All Cromwell showed is that extremism is bad, and they much preferred a constitutional monarchy and a strong parliament than a single strong political leader who believes he knows best and can do anything. He became a despot. The response was the strengthening of democracy. Cult of the personality is so tasteless. And all that praying!
The man abolished Christmas. No fun is no fun.

Sure sign of a loser - not trusting the people to rule themselves - 'his way' is better:

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1653
He found a ‘Rump Parliament’ of MPs, who appeared determined to extend their rule indefinitely. Cromwell harangued them on the floor of the House of Commons for being self-serving and then his troops forcibly shut down Parliament. He replaced it with ‘the assembly of saints’, a nominated group of men he considered suitably puritan. But, when they too proved unsatisfactory, he had them removed as well.

1658
Cromwell died on September 3 of natural causes. An event still commemorated by the Cromwell Association.

His son Richard inherited the title of Lord Protector, but he could not control the army. So in 1660 Charles I’s son was restored to the throne. When Charles II became King the British celebrated the end of Cromwell’s rule with arguably the biggest booze-up the country has ever seen. However the Restoration Settlement did not give back to the King financial control over the government and military. It was the start of the road to parliamentary democracy. This was Cromwell’s greatest legacy,



http://www.bbc.co.uk/timelines/zttpsbk
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Call off Christmas? Reminds me about the only good thing in that awful Robin Hood movie of Kevin Costner's: Alan Rickman's Sherriff of Nottingham! Whistle

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Life in Cronwell's time

* Cromwell wanted everyone to live like Puritans. He was a highly religious man who believed that everybody should lead their lives according to what was written in the Bible. The word "Puritan" means that followers had a pure soul and lived a good life. Cromwell believed that everybody else in England should follow his example.

* Pointless enjoyment was frowned upon. Cromwell shut many inns and the theatres were all closed down. Play houses were closed because the Puritans thought the devil was at work in them.

*Christmas day was abolished in 1652 along with decorations, mince pies and plum puddings. By the C17th, Christmas had become a holiday of celebration and enjoyment - especially after the problems caused by the civil war. Cromwell wanted it returned to a religious celebration where people thought about the birth of Jesus rather than ate and drank too much. In London, soldiers were ordered to go round the streets and take, by force if necessary, food being cooked for a Christmas celebration. The smell of a goose being cooked could bring trouble. Traditional Christmas decorations like holly were banned.
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To keep the population’s mind on religion, instead of having feast days to celebrate the saints (as had been common in Medieval England), one day in every month was a fast day - you did not eat all day.

*Cromwell believed that women and girls should dress in a proper manner. Make-up was banned. Puritan leaders and soldiers would roam the streets of towns and scrub off any make-up found on unsuspecting women. Too colourful dresses were banned. A Puritan lady wore a long black dress that covered her almost from neck to toes. She wore a white apron and her hair was bunched up behind a white head-dress. Puritan men wore black clothes and short hair.

http://www.slideshare.net/jburrows92/oliver-cromwells-england-slideshare
thar
Posted: Thursday, September 3, 2015 2:50:15 PM

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England's Taliban. Been there, done that, no fun. No thanks.
Gave revolution a bad name, never recovered. Cromwell is the reason England has kept its monarchy while so much of Europe killed or outgrew theirs. That early experience and reevaluation and renegotiation of the role. Ironic that Cromwell the parliamentarian regicide is probably much of the reason there is still a monarchy.

The Puritans went to America to practice their religion in peace and build their moral, pure and make-up free religious paradise there...Whistle

Irony both sides of the Atlantic. And hated by the Irish, the most religious country of the three. God must have a wicked sense of humour.
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