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Cancer can be beaten with an alkaline diet Options
mj
Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:53:42 PM
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Apparently cancer cannot grow in alkaline so if you change your diet your cancer can stop and eventually go away. My mom is on this and she is doing amazing. She had breast cancer last summer and had a mastectomy. She never went on any of the radiation or the chemo, then cancer came back in her liver. He Natural Path Doctor told her about the alkaline diet. She has been on this for 6 weeks now and the doctors are amazed. Let people know about this but you have to be diligent and follow the exact diet without cheating.
Good luck to all
Tovarish
Posted: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:16:19 AM

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We are living in hope that some treatment will occur to defeat this insidious disease.
There doesn't seem to be a day go by without it touching some one we love.

Good luck to your Mum.

Can you give me more information on the diet please?
bxlau
Posted: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:23:02 AM
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mj wrote:
Apparently cancer cannot grow in alkaline so if you change your diet your cancer can stop and eventually go away. My mom is on this and she is doing amazing. She had breast cancer last summer and had a mastectomy. She never went on any of the radiation or the chemo, then cancer came back in her liver. He Natural Path Doctor told her about the alkaline diet. She has been on this for 6 weeks now and the doctors are amazed. Let people know about this but you have to be diligent and follow the exact diet without cheating.
Good luck to all

Can you be more specific by giving examples of some alkaline diets? Thanks
Maggie
Posted: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:17:59 PM

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I hope your mom improves as well. However, if she does, according to specialists, it will have nothing to do with an alkaline diet. There has been a web hoax on this subject for some time now.

Here's a link to the 'Snopes' of it.

Debunking the alkaline diet for Cancer

"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program." - Ronald Reagan
kisholoy mukherjee
Posted: Sunday, July 25, 2010 3:57:26 AM

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Hmm.
It seems that the premise on which it is suggested that alkaline diet can cure cancer is unproven. The premise being that cancerous cells or tumors can thrive in an acidic environment. This claim is based on some test tube experiments and also on the fact that chemotherapy works best in an alkaline environment. However, most doctors seem to suggest that the theory that tumors can thrive in an acidic environment has not been verified with humans and also that the human body has several mechanisms to adjust the pH levels, therefore an alkaline diet is unlikely to increase the pH level enough to increase alkalinity.
Also, those who are the advocates of an alkaline diet suggest taking squash, lettuce, tomatoes, celery, carrots, onions, chick peas, spinach, cucumber, basil, parsley, olive oil, lemons, limes and watermelons and suggest avoiding caffeine, tobacco, sugar, meat, white rice and even dairy products. Needless to say, a lot of the food items in the 'don't take' list are rich in protein and vitamin D, which are essential during cancer treatment period.


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Tovarish
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:15:16 AM

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Some hope is better than no hope
kisholoy mukherjee
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:26:37 AM

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Tovarish wrote:
Some hope is better than no hope


Not always. From what I understand, the theory of an alkaline diet being able to cure cancer is no better than the theory of swallowing raw fish or worse still cow urine (yes!) for curing asthama which are advocated by 'swamis' in India.
In fact, it seems that an alkaline diet (an overtly alkaline one with very high pH say over 12 will only make matters worse.

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Tovarish
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:08:10 AM

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A dieing man will clutch at any straw.

A very dear friend of mine has recently passed away from stomach cancer.
The doctors said it was only a matter of time for him.

He had heard of the Asparagus Diet, the research and the planning kept him happy for a while.

I do not think it is wise to judge people.
cleopatra clover
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2010 6:23:43 AM
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I just lost a dear friend early this month...she suffered from tongue cancer since four years ago.
Actually I really felt bad, because I haven't visited her for so many weeks until her last days of life,
all because I've been too busy with my work; and know what? She sent me a message the night she died....
the usual message she sent when she missed me.
kisholoy mukherjee
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2010 6:39:19 AM

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Tovarish, I wasn't judging people. Perhaps you misunderstood.
Hope is one thing; it is certainly important I agree. After all hope is what keeps us alive.
But then, if something can be more harmful than useful, perhaps it would be wise not to use it.


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peterhewett
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2010 7:20:28 AM

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KM puts his foot in again.

It seems that the premise on which it is suggested that alkaline diet can cure cancer is unproven. The premise being that cancerous cells or tumors can thrive in an acidic environment. This claim is based on some test tube experiments and also on the fact that chemotherapy works best in an alkaline environment. However, most doctors seem to suggest that the theory that tumors can thrive in an acidic environment has not been verified with humans and also that the human body has several mechanisms to adjust the pH levels, therefore an alkaline diet is unlikely to increase the pH level enough to increase alkalinity.
Also, those who are the advocates of an alkaline diet suggest taking squash, lettuce, tomatoes, celery, carrots, onions, chick peas, spinach, cucumber, basil, parsley, olive oil, lemons, limes and watermelons and suggest avoiding caffeine, tobacco, sugar, meat, white rice and even dairy products. Needless to say, a lot of the food items in the 'don't take' list are rich in protein and vitamin D, which are essential during cancer treatment period.


Peter asks. Do you have any compassion and common sense. For goodness sake think before you speak. Read the original post again.

He that increases in knowledge increases in pain.
kisholoy mukherjee
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:29:39 AM

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My sympathies and best wishes to the sufferers of this deadly disease. Hats off to those who are battling it with great courage. My 'bestest' of wishes to mj's mother.


Gotcha, bud, again
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:12:45 PM

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Back in the 60's I could sometimes hear old folks talking of someone having cancer and trying birch ash for remedy.
Birch ash is used to produce lye which is alkaline substance. I don't know how birch ash was used, eaten or otherwise.
Today many parts of birch trees can be used as ingredients for medical or "healthy" products, bark, leaves, sap...

Have to try and find some facts about this.


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intelfam
Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:26:17 AM

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".............. has not been verified with humans and also that the human body has several mechanisms to adjust the pH levels, therefore an alkaline diet is unlikely to increase the pH level enough to increase alkalinity."

While the human body does have pH corrections it is not totally effective in clearing the problem ions rapidly. Those who have suffered from cystitis know that adjusting the diet can change one's urine pH over a long period; obviously this means that the kidneys are removing the ions but, as the high pH is maintained over some 12 hours after taking anti-cystitis compunds like sodium citrate, they are not efficient and the body is subjected to the presence of -OH molecules for some time. I guess a similar reasoning would apply in my urologist recommending that I "acidify" my urine to stop stones from growing by a once a day glass of citirc acid solution, his claiming that the acidic ions remain working for 12 hours?

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Sheri-Lynn Jarman
Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 7:58:24 PM

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Wether or not studies show or do not show that cancer can not survive in an alkaline environment is moot!! My 6 year old cousin diagnosed with stage 4 lymphoma was sent home to live as best as she could because the cancer was to big for chemo to help at all. My Auntie found out about this diet and put her on it instantly testing her ph levels every day with the PH test strips and keep her PH between 7.50 & 8 (absolute max!!!). She is 15 years old and still cancer free!!! My Mom recently diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer that spread to her lungs, liver and mediastinum. On the same diet and not cheating even a tiny bit!!! After her first 4 round of chemo the dr'd did a ct scan just to see if the chemo formula was right but told her not to get excited as after only 4 treatments, good news is that it hasn't grown or decreased by 1 or 2 percent. Guess WHAT!!! 41% decrease!!!! 4 treatments!!!!! It works people…it works if you really put your all into it. Test your levels and get the minerals you need into your body. We do whole food juicing rather than a traditional juicer because you do not waste any of the veggies and get the benefits of the healthier parts of the veggies such as skins, seeds and cores. The Vitamix blender turns this stuff into juice. There are other good blenders out there but this one is beyond compare as is actually goes so fast and turns whole foods into a nice thin juice. If you leave it on longer the blades are moving so fast that it will head up your ingredients and make soup. It works so well and I recommend for anyone trying to beat cancer. I am not telling you to stop chemo or any other treatments…I am saying to add this to your treatments. The healthy body it gives you will also benefit you in so many ways!!! My Mom's chemo treatments are supposed to make her vomit and so much more….she is out and about the same day!!! Has never been sick from chemo. Only tired because her body is working so fast to replenish the good cells that the chemo kills. Her body works twice as hard and twice as fast because of its healthy state!!!! So thankful for this. No doctor will ever tell you that this will work. In fact they may tell you not to bother and see their dietician which may be good for some people but you will be vomiting after chemo and other side effects. Wheat alone is nor good for us anymore…Monster wheat..not good. Anyway, just sharing my stories and I know there are many more out there!!! Watch the dock on youtube called A beautiful Truth about Dr. Gerson. it is not about alkaline diet but about food and our body and what we actually put in our bodies these days that isn't even food. Our bodies were meant to eat fresh and that is it. Watch it and see what he did with food to cure so many people of cancer with food and his philosophy!!! Cancer is everywhere these days….too much!! So many cancer causing chemicals are being eaten by people everyday and they do not even know it!!! Did you know that MSG has over 20 different names and if you eat processed pre packaged you are likely having MSG!!! Google that too!!
Love y'all for spreading the word and thanks for sharing…sorry for all of my spelling mistakes…lol….I do not have time to go back and check….I hope you can make sense of what I have shared. If anyone wants any info I am always happy to help!!!! Go to my Facebook health sharing group called ~know what you eat~ and click join…I will add you and ask away!! I will answer anything that you like to the best of my ability and if I cannot I will consult my team of amazing people!!
Sheri-Lynn Jarman
Posted: Friday, December 27, 2013 3:07:22 PM

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mj wrote:
Apparently cancer cannot grow in alkaline so if you change your diet your cancer can stop and eventually go away. My mom is on this and she is doing amazing. She had breast cancer last summer and had a mastectomy. She never went on any of the radiation or the chemo, then cancer came back in her liver. He Natural Path Doctor told her about the alkaline diet. She has been on this for 6 weeks now and the doctors are amazed. Let people know about this but you have to be diligent and follow the exact diet without cheating.
Good luck to all


MJ I am so happy that this is working for you!!! My cousin did this diet without chemo (doctors said it wouldn't save her) at 6 years old. She is 15 years old now and beat the cancer completely!!! Took her a year to beat her stage 4 Lymphoma!! My Mom is now battling stage 4 colon cancer with chemo and alkaline diet. Dr's said he first four rounds of chemo wouldn't have good results and good news would be that the cancer had not grown at all and it would tell them that they are using the right chemo. Their minds were blown at the 41% decrease!!!!! Dr's will never admit that diet could do this because big pharma pays their bills. The proof is in the pudding!!! If your Mom is still fighting and would like to chat with someone or you would like to chat with me being a child of a parent with cancer that would be amazing!!! There are no support groups where we live!!! email me and let me know if you are up for some chatting now and then or idea sharing???
magicard@shaw.ca
Sheri
Lucy Yang
Posted: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:54:25 PM

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A distinction should be made between acidic/alkaline foods (which have a pH less than 7 or greater than 7 on their own) and acid-forming/alkaline-forming foods (which either contribute to or remove from the body's stores of hydrogen ions). For example, while grapefruit tastes sour and has a pH <7, it takes hydrogen ions in the body out of solution and therefore is alkaline-forming.
Cat
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Good point, Lucy. The body wants to maintain balance.


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Vostok_8
Posted: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:20:22 AM
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There are some strong, scientifically proven arguments in favor of natural diet as a complementary treatment for lung cancer. I've been following the diet for over a year now (in addition to my chemotherapy and pills) and I feel much better. Also doctor is telling me that I'm doing better and tumor growth has stopped and size decreased to 35% from the beginning. So I would totally recommend it to anybody. Here are the details on the treatment and some additional useful info: http://paseka.us/cancer-types/lung-cancer/
pedro
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2015 4:48:40 AM

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Given that the thread dates back to 2010 you've probably already outlived some of the posters too.

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arun.fegade
Posted: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:56:53 AM
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"She had breast cancer last summer and had a mastectomy. .....then cancer came back in her liver."
Cancer versus Surgery. Who won the battle?
ellana
Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2015 5:11:23 PM
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I'm very late in my participation to this debate... but from personal experience, I'm a 22 yr survivor of breast cancer after surgery, chemo, radiation. I live a very healthy lifestyle but that is no guarantee... Genetics, exposure to toxins, personal lifestyle, etc do not define one's chances of getting the dreaded disease or of successful outcomes. My diagnosis vs yours is not a matter of discussion. There are too many variables in a cancer diagnosis to compare one to another.
arun.fegade
Posted: Sunday, December 27, 2015 12:32:59 PM
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"There are some strong, scientifically proven arguments in favor of natural diet as a complementary treatment for lung cancer."

If natural diet can be a COMPLEMENTARY TREATMENT, then what would be an unnatural diet? And what will it do?
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