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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Thursday, September 07, 2017 12:46:38 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Word-Detective-Words-Serendipity-Selfie/dp/1408706733

Can you please read first two chapters and give me advice? Is this book interesting to a native speaker? Can it be interesting to a learner?



აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
almo 1
Posted: Thursday, September 07, 2017 12:53:21 PM
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I don't know about the book, but I make use of this site:



http://www.word-detective.com/





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Posted: Saturday, September 09, 2017 9:48:44 PM
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I got the book from the library.
If you like reading biographies, it's for you. But it isn't a good investment if you are interested in the history (and intricacies) of the language.

I would recommend one I read recently, by Crystal:

https://www.amazon.ca/Mother-Tongue-English-How-that/dp/0380715430/ref=pd_sim_14_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=5PGZABFC2SXTPVBZFJM6

Will have to go back and get more titles from that particular section, as the list under 'History of the English Language' on their site (tpl.ca) also includes publications dealing with different aspects (teaching etc.).
whatson
Posted: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:32:44 AM
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Sorry The above is by Bill Bryson.

By David Crystal:
Spell it out
The English Language, A Guided Tour
The Story of English in 100 Words
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:53:05 AM

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whatson wrote:
I got the book from the library.

You can read a little bit of it on Amazon. And even more on Google Books:

https://books.google.ru/books?id=NPyqCgAAQBAJ

whatson wrote:
But it isn't a good investment if you are interested in the history (and intricacies) of the language.

Thanks for giving your opinion.

whatson wrote:
I would recommend one I read recently, by Crystal:

https://www.amazon.ca/Mother-Tongue-English-How-that/dp/0380715430/

That's by Bill Bryson and it looks intriguing. Did you mean something by this writer:

https://www.amazon.ca/Making-Sense-Glamorous-English-Grammar/dp/0190660570/

?

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Posted: Monday, September 11, 2017 1:23:07 PM
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Yes, that Crystal. Also by him:

The Story of BE
The Fight for English

The new book sounds promising.

More titles - all fascinating

Phil Cousineau: Wordcatcher

Seth Lerer: Inventing English

Henry Hitchings: The Secret Life of Words

Ben MacIntyre: The last word

Melvyn Bragg: The Adventure of English


Re Posh words: I guess it's last one that mentions in the extended title 'fancy words'.
In most cases it means obsolete. You wouldn't use an obscure word while shopping, just because Pushkin used it(talking to his grandpa).


Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Monday, September 11, 2017 3:41:07 PM

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whatson wrote:
You wouldn't use an obscure word while shopping, just because Pushkin used it(talking to his grandpa).

That's true but with English it's different - I will never go shopping in an English speaking country. In Canada I am an outlaw and will not risk entering any realm of Her Majesty's. Other lands I'm not interested in.



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almo 1
Posted: Monday, September 11, 2017 5:06:04 PM
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This is hilarious, though I don't understand Russian.




Jay and Silent Bob in Russian





Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 12:33:45 AM

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almo 1 wrote:
This is hilarious, though I don't understand Russian.

When I was young it was considered bad manners to use this interjection in a mixed gender company let alone to say it from the stage. We preferred a euphemism - блин as in an anecdote (joke):

Quote:

Куда, блин?
To Dublin!

If it sounds like Rap I don't know. Who or what is Time I don't know either.

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almo 1
Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 11:50:07 AM
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Time is not name,
it is time as in "That was good old time(days)".



English version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5bW8H-kNZs



It's just that Russian version sounds differently funny.



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Posted: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:51:08 AM
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Xap
Not sure these are posh enough, but you should know and USE them:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41266000
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:22:34 PM

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whatson wrote:
Not sure these are posh enough, but you should know and USE them:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41266000

They claim they have 30 words but only presented 13 of them. I only love dowsabel and merry-go-sorry. The last one made me learn two more (not so archaic) merry-go-round and merry-go-down. :)

Thanks.



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