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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:17:32 AM

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The Illegitimate Montague, by Sarah Mallory

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Such wanton, abandoned behaviour was quite shocking. If anyone learned of it her reputation would be lost and her business would almost certainly be ruined.

What does it mean in this context?

აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:27:03 AM

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Here it's something like "promiscuous, wild sexual behaviour".


In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:29:02 AM

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Jyrkkä Jätkä wrote:
Here it's something like "promiscuous, wild sexual behaviour".

I've just found it in the dictionary. Thought to delete the question but your reply was already there. :)

Thank you.

აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
Kirill Vorobyov
Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:15:38 AM

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This is not to the point, but I wonder what the roots for this kind of meaning might be...
Like "abandoned by God" or something?
thar
Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:29:45 AM

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No, I don't think so. I think it is actually directly from the original meaning of the word.
It is all about control - or lack of it!

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From French, from Old French abandon, from abondonner.

Noun[edit]
abandon (plural abandons)
1.A yielding to natural impulses or inhibitions; freedom from artificial constraint, with loss of appreciation of consequences.


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The Old French word was formed from the adverbial phrase à bandon "at will, at discretion,"
from à "at, to" (from Latin ad; see ad-) +
bandon "power, jurisdiction,"
from Latin bannum, proclamation,"
which is from a Frankish or other Germanic word, from Proto-Germanic *bannan- "proclaim, summon, outlaw" (things all done by proclamation); see ban (v.).


It survives in other words such as 'the banns' which are wedding announcements you had to post, to allow people time to object to the marriage:

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banns (n.)
or notice given in a church of an intended marriage," mid-15c. (late 12c. in Anglo-Latin), from Old English bannan "to summon, command, proclaim" (see ban (v.)).
Also probably partly from Old French ban "announcement, proclamation, banns, authorization," from Frankish *ban or some other Germanic cognate of the Old English word. They were made part of ecclesiastic legislation 1215 by the fourth Lateran council.


also in
ban (order against)
banish (order to leave)
bandit (outlaw, forbidden)
contraband (against the rules)
banal (thou shalt not be boring and common!) Whistle

The meaning of desertion comes from that, and uses the same word in a different meaning
From Middle French, from Old French abandoner -
a ban doner - to give up to banishment - to give up, to forsake
Kirill Vorobyov
Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:38:12 AM

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I see, thank you very much, Thar!
thar
Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:48:41 AM

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Thanks for the question - it was interesting checking it out.

Basically = 'Doing what I want'.

How on Earth that comes to mean promiscuity and wild sex I have no idea! :))
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:05:03 AM

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thar wrote:
Basically = 'Doing what I want'.

In Russian we have an adjective - 'распоясавшийся' - meaning exactly this. Its literal meaning is "having taken off your belt".

აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
markimoo
Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:03:34 AM

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Jyrkkä Jätkä wrote:
Here it's something like "promiscuous, wild sexual behaviour".
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