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D00M
Posted: Saturday, May 13, 2017 12:43:17 PM

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Hello respected teachers,

What's the difference between the following sentences?

He said that he was sorry to have lost you.
He said that he was sorry to have you lost.

I am looking forward to your answers.
tunaafi
Posted: Saturday, May 13, 2017 3:53:42 PM

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The second is incorrect.
D00M
Posted: Saturday, May 13, 2017 4:20:50 PM

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Why?

I am looking forward to your answers.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Saturday, May 13, 2017 8:20:44 PM

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Well it's not necessarily incorrect - just very unlikely.

Look at the simpler sentences.

I have lost you. - it means that I don't know where you are.
He said that he was sorry to have lost you. - He was sorry that he didn't know where you are.

I have you lost. - it means that somehow I cause someone to make you lost. It happened in Hansel and Gretel - the wicked stepmother had the woodcutter cause the children to be lost - she had them lost.
He said that he was sorry to have you lost. - He said he was sorry that he had caused someone to cause you to not know where you were.

The second is so unlikely that it seems like an incorrect version of the first.


Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
D00M
Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2017 11:24:03 AM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Well it's not necessarily incorrect - just very unlikely.

He was sorry that he didn't know where you are.



Thank you very much.

What's the difference between the two followings?

He was sorry that he didn't know where you are.
He was sorry that he didn't know where you were.




I am looking forward to your answers.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2017 8:50:07 PM

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The first one is impossible. It was my mistake.
It should have been:
He said that he was sorry to have lost you. - He was sorry that he didn't know where you were.

Edited to correct my mistake.


Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
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