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Parkinson's Disease & herbs Options
TheParser
Posted: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:19:44 AM
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An acquaintance has just learned that she has Parkinson's Disease.

Some friends are telling her to take certain herbs -- in addition to the usual medicines prescribed by physicians.

Other friends are warning her about the danger in taking certain herbs.

She does not know what to do.

I went online to find some information that might help her, but there is not much. Some anecdotal evidence indicates that certain herbs may help, but other anecdotal evidence indicates that such herbs may not help and may even harm the patient if the wrong amount is taken.

If you have anything to add, I will pass it on to her.


Thank you
Lotje1000
Posted: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:59:19 AM

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I'm sorry to hear your acquaintance has been diagnosed with Parkinson's.

I would advise speaking to a medical professional about this. They'll be best suited to tell her which herbs, if any, are appropriate and if they can interfere with medication she may already be taking.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Monday, December 05, 2016 8:06:14 AM

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The only way to know is to consult a professional nutritionist.

Not a General Practitioner (who is trained in manufactured drugs, but not in botany), and definitely not people on the internet - who may tell the truth - but not what you need to hear.

MANY plants are poisonous - potatoes, tomatoes, red beans (chilli con carne!), mangoes, lemons, limes, oranges, the seeds/stones of apples, apricots, peaches, plums, nutmeg, onions, garlic, rhubarb . . .
But you have to eat an awful lot to see any bad effect, and in small quantities some of them have a good effect.

However, only an independent nutritionist (who is not connected to any herbalists or advertising agencies) would be able to say which ones would be useful for your friend.



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hedy mmm
Posted: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:59:15 AM

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You are so right DragOnspeaker, a nutritionist IS the best option.

There are some diseases that mimic Parkinson's Disease, such as Benign Tremors which may be treated with medication and/or a medical procedure. I have a friend who was diagnosed by a holistic Doctor that he had the latter, and that a procedure to his elbow (of the hand that was showing tremors), would solve the problem, but my friend's personal physician prescribed medication for Parkinson's Disease instead....after 6 months of drugs, he is still suffering and is now seeking the original advise of the Holistic Doctor....

I have Lyme Disease for 36 yrs, which, thank God, a Chiropractor/Nutritionist diagnosed (with a lock of my hair followed by blood tests) and treated, it remains dormant in my system. There is a cure today for that disease, if diagnosed early. I was misdiagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthiritis by 3 specialists, however, my husband a scientist, insisted I see a nutritionist, so 3 months after the tick bite, suffering with swelling, joint pain, puss around my fingernails, listlessness — I was properly diagnosed. Had we followed the advise of the 'specialists' I would probably be dead or have irreversible brain damage....I suffer no side effects from Lyme disease, unless I'm very stressed.....there is something to be said about what you eat, as you state and the nightshade plants are poisonous if you have a propensity to Arthiritis.....

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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Monday, December 05, 2016 12:01:34 PM

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Only if you can consult baba Ramdev's team of herbal experts in Haridwar Distt of Uttrakhand in India. I can search for more information of Ramdev's organisation, if you want. May email me at ashlaw17@yahoo.in. I will be happy if your acquaintance is cured.

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Hope123
Posted: Monday, December 05, 2016 12:09:33 PM

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An ND is trained in herbs and knows that herbs are drugs too and are to be used carefully. The trick is to know cross reactions of herbs with drugs.

As mentioned, regular MDs have no training in herbs and little in nutrition. I have always seen an MD who is also trained in alternative care and nutrition and thus knows both fields. They are hard to find but there are some excellent ones out there - if she is from California, they are usually advanced in that.

Proper nutrition such as good fats and carbs for the whole body can never go wrong. Eat properly, get enough good quality sleep and exercise, and eat and drink "clean" food and water - always a healthy protocol.

Some foods do have poisonous properties in them but often there are other properties in them to counteract. And everybody's body reacts differently.

From a personal point of view, if she has ever been exposed to toxic metals or has felt unwell after eating, a workup in those fields MIGHT be fruitful. It would not hurt to make sure there is no exposure to chemicals and pesticides even in the home or on the food - as much as is possible these days. Exposure to pesticides has been linked to Parkinsons.

As mentioned, never rely on the internet, although I have found useful information checking which botanical families are related from reputable scientific websites.

How nice of you to try, but she needs more help than you or we can give her, Parser.

(Disclaimer - Nothing said here is meant as medical advice.)

Added - I remember from when our friend was dying of it that his wife told us about groups anyone can join who give help to not only her but to her caregivers/family.





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hedy mmm
Posted: Monday, December 05, 2016 2:07:24 PM

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Yes, I agree Ashwin Joshi. Applause

Herbs have healing components, I subscribe to them, my husband did also. I am also interested in such information to....Can I email you too?
hedy

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TheParser
Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 5:27:43 AM
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Thank you, everyone, for your helpful suggestions.

I shall print them out and give them to her.

Many of you suggested seeing a nutritionist.

I found that very interesting in light of an article in today's Daily Feed: bacteria in the gut may be the cause of Parkinson's.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 5:44:29 AM

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That is interesting.

I would like to help more, but anything I tell you would be at least 'third-hand' and in the realm of 'rumour', I'm afraid.


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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:21:04 AM

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Most welcome, heddy mmm.

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hedy mmm
Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 11:23:40 PM

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TheParser wrote:
I found that very interesting in light of an article in today's Daily Feed: bacteria in the gut may be the cause of Parkinson's.


In my research concerning migraines, it stated that bacteria could be responsible....
to quote Adelle Davis, the author of "Let's Have Healthy Children", "You are what you eat."


"God graced us with today....don't waste it." hedy
TheParser
Posted: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 4:54:52 AM
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hedy mmm wrote:
"You are what you eat."



Yes, that is what many people believe.

For example, it is reported that many Americans do not eat vegetables on a regular basis.

On the other hand, it is believed that maybe the traditional Japanese diet is at least partly responsible for longevity in that country.

It is also reported that the results of a "Western diet" (i.e., sugar, etc.) is causing many problems in China.


hedy mmm
Posted: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 11:17:06 AM

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I've always served 1or 2 vegetables and a salad for each dinner meal. One day my grandson brought his friend over for dinner to my house, (they were around 7 yrs old)....I had served white rice, black beans, chicken, creamed spinach, and salad w/tomatoes, cucumber, carrots, red onions, cheese, romaine lettuce, arugula, and radicchio ...his friend said he didn't eat white rice or green vegetables ...my grandson piped up and said..."in this house we eat all the colors!" So, he did and still does!
Whistle

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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 11:22:54 AM

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Coz of "white' rice and 'green' vegetables. Children's observation and talks are most wonderful.Boo hoo!

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hedy mmm
Posted: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 1:11:36 PM

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DITTO...

From hedy with one 'd'

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Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:57:23 AM

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hedy mmm wrote:
. . .


You'll like Cherokee corn (no GMs, the original seed) and rainbow pizza, then.



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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:47:53 AM

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I am a rainbow pizza today coz I ate one yesterday.

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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Monday, April 03, 2017 5:42:27 AM

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First Welcome Cheryl Walley for joining this forum;

Then Congratulations for your excellent recovery and that too with herbal preparations. Many herbs are the crude form of allopathic meds.

Wishing you very healthy life for many coming years.Applause Applause Applause



Ocimum Sanctum is a Latin term meaning ‘sacred fragrant lipped basil’; native to tropical Asia, this plant is more commonly referred to as Tulsi or ‘the incomparable one’ in Hindi. Tulsi belongs to the Labiatae or mint family and is now cultivated widely across the world for both religious and medicinal purposes as well as for its essential oil.
CHARACTERISTICS OF OCIMUM SANCTUM

An aromatic plant, the tulsi grows like a branched shrub with tender and oval leaves. Ocimum Sanctum can grow upto 75 cms in height. The plant in India is available in two varieties; one having green leaves called the Lakshmi tulsi and the other with purple leaves, known as Krishna Tulsi. The plant’s flowers bare a purple shade and its fruit resemble yellowish/ reddish seeds. The leaves of this plant have an astringent/ peppery taste and are hence also used for culinary purposes.
THERAPEUTIC POWERS OF OCIMUM SANCTUM

Tulsi has known to be used for its medicinal qualities for over 1000 years and ancient Ayurvedic texts refer to tulsi as the ‘elixir of life’. The plants leaves, stems and seeds are used for relieving purposes. Tulsi is known to relieve almost all ailments including common colds, digestive problems, breathing problems, stress, blood sugar, heart problems, fever and even ulcers. The oil from the seeds of this herb is now also being used to relieve cancer.
Holy Basil can be used as an:

Antioxidant
Antibacterial
Antifungal
Anti-inflammatory

Ocimum Sanctum is also an adaptogenic herb; that is, a herb that can help the body combat stress and enable it to function normally during traumatic periods.
NUTRIENT COMPOSITION

The chemical constituents of this herb include ursolic acid, eugenol, oleanolic acid, rosmarinic acid, linalool and carvacrol. The plant also contains β-caryophyllene, β-elemene and germacrene D. The high eugenol content of this plant helps it act like a pain-killer.
CARE FOR AILMENTS
Ocimum Sanctum can be used to relieve several ailments, these include:

Fever: Holy basil helps relieves various kinds of fevers including malaria and dengue. The herbs components induce excessive sweating, thereby, bringing down the body temperature.
Common Cold and Cough: Raw tulsi leaves are very helpful in providing relief from cold and cough. Being a very effective expectorant, the holy basil is very useful in relieving cough and sore throat.
Kidney Stones: Apart from strengthening the functioning of the kidney, regular use of this herb can help one get rid of stones in the kidney.
Heart Problems: This herb is very effective in reducing cholesterol levels and it thus helps maintain a healthy heart function.
Insect Bites: Extracts from this herb can be used as a preventive as well as reliever for insect bites; they can be used as a mosquito repellent as well as to relieve bites from insects like leeches and scorpions and also snake bites.
Mouth Ulcers: Chewing of raw basil leaves helps relieve mouth infections including ulcers. In addition this herb is extremely useful in maintaining dental hygiene; its antibacterial properties help one relieve dental problems like bad breath and pyorrhea.
Stress: Consumption of the holy basil helps combat both physical as well as emotional stress as well as boost energy. The herb helps maintain the balance of the nerves.
Skin Problems: Holy basil is used to relieve skin infections like ring worm.
Eye Problems: Eye problems like sore eyes and night blindness can effectively be relieved with the regular use of tulsi extracts.
Headaches: External as well as internal consumption of this herb provides relief from headaches.
Breathing Problems: Extracts from this plant are often used to relieve respiratory problems like asthma and bronchitis.
Sharpen Memory: Extracts from the leaves of this herb act as a tonic for the nerves and help sharpen the memory too.
Blood Purifier: This herb is an efficient blood purifier and thus helps attain a clear and glowing skin as well as prevent several other ailments.
This herb is found in almost all Hindu homes.
(Searched from net)


(There are many more herbs having wonderful qualities)


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TheParser
Posted: Monday, April 03, 2017 7:47:11 AM
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Ashwin Joshi wrote:
First Welcome Cheryl Walley for joining this forum;

Then Congratulations for your excellent recovery.






Ms. Walley, I wish to second Mr. Joshi's comments.


I wish both of you a nice day!
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