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marineguy
Posted: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:51:31 AM
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#1. she will have stood in for CEO until he comes here.
#2. she will stand in for CEO until he comes here.

hi.
Are all of sentences correct?
thanks in advance.

sandraleesmith46
Posted: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:20:27 AM

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marineguy wrote:
#1. she will have stood in for CEO until he comes here.
#2. she will stand in for CEO until he comes here.

hi.
Are all of sentences correct?
thanks in advance.



I don't believe the first sentence is correct, although right off the top of my head I can't quote you grammar rules why. It just sounds "wrong" to me, and it's really awkward to use. I'd just go with number 2, to convey the message.

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RuthP
Posted: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:27:37 PM

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Neither sentence is incorrect. Number two would be the choice for a statement of the situation, e.g.:

John Smith has been hired as CEO. He cannot start until August, so she will stand in for (the) CEO until he (arrives) here.

The only time I can think to use number one would be in a situation discussing her qualifications, e.g.:

She has applied with our firm for the CEO position. She is acting CEO at company X until their new hire arrives in August. She will have stood in (as) CEO until he (arrives), giving her 6 months of experience by the time she comes to us.

I changed a little of your other wording:

Before CEO you can either use "for the" CEO, which refers to the CEO as a person, or "as" CEO, which refers to CEO as a position. The meaning of the sentence is not changed.

The phrase "until he comes here" is OK English, but it is wordy and sounds more awkward than just saying "arrives."

Using "here" would be optional in the first case, inappropriate for number two, because this conversation is taking place at another company.
marineguy
Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:35:02 AM
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thanks a lot Ruthp, sndra.
I guess Ruthp has really prominent abilities to make me understand English grammar.
you're so excellent.
to be plain with you, you're a genius.
your're perfect.
thank you so much..
Good luck.
RuthP
Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:18:00 PM

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marineguy,

Thanks very much, I'm glad I could help. I don't think I'm so much a genius, but I can do two things. I can write short sentences. That helps a lot with understanding in a non-native language. I can also divide things up into little pieces of information, so you can look at one thing at a time. I hope that helps, too.
nightwalker
Posted: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:39:38 AM
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marineguy wrote:
#1. she will have stood in for CEO until he comes here.
#2. she will stand in for CEO until he comes here.

hi.
Are all of sentences correct?
thanks in advance.


#1 Future perfect is not correct to convey the message.
Fture perfect is used as follows:


The Future Perfect shows that something will occur before:

1. another action occurs in the future
2. or before a specific time in the future.

Examples:

* By the end of this weekend, I will have revised my lessons.
* By the time her husband arrives home, she will have prepared dinner.
* I won't have finished this task by the end of June

#2 sounds correct
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