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KMPageau
Posted: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:42:44 PM
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In this French radio tape which I am trying to transcribe, and to translate into English,

Source: http://archives.radio-canada.ca/emissions/578-6159/page/10/

... at the 6-minute mark, Jean-Guy Frenette says:

My attempted French transcript:

Quote:
"Sur ce plan ? Euh – Je crois que le PQ considère toujours le syndicalisme comme devant être un syndicalisme (à ta faire)."


What is (à ta faire)? I don't know what it means, have never heard it, can't find it in dictionaries or Reverso.

My attempted English translation:

Quote:
In this plan? Uh – I think that the PQ still considers trade unionism as having to be trade unionism (à ta faire) --


This is Quebec French. Thanks in advance for your help, I appreciate it.

rogermue
Posted: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:58:53 PM

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Peut- être il dit "un syndicalisme d'autrefois".
SandraM
Posted: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:34:49 AM
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KMPageau wrote:

My attempted French transcript:

[quote]"Sur ce plan ? Euh – Je crois que le PQ considère toujours le syndicalisme comme devant être un syndicalisme (à ta faire)."

I'm definitely hearing "syndicalisme d'affaires" here.
KMPageau
Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:29:48 PM
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rogermue wrote:
Peut- être il dit "un syndicalisme d'autrefois".


Merci ! Possibilité intéressante.


excaelis
Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:32:49 PM

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That would make sense. Rog, in context.

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KMPageau
Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:34:02 PM
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SandraM wrote:
KMPageau wrote:

My attempted French transcript:

[quote]"Sur ce plan ? Euh – Je crois que le PQ considère toujours le syndicalisme comme devant être un syndicalisme (à ta faire)."

I'm definitely hearing "syndicalisme d'affaires" here.


Hi there. You may be onto something. I googled "syndicalisme d'affaires" to see if it's a known expression, and came up with actual uses for that term:

https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=GeJfU6LiJOe48wf50YCwDw#q=%22syndicalisme+d%27affaires%22

This looks very good, thank you. Takes a good ear! Very kind of you both to take the time to "listen" for me.

Have a great day.
KMPageau
Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:10:25 PM
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rogermue wrote:
Peut- être il dit "un syndicalisme d'autrefois".


Hi there. I am short of sleep these days, and I forgot to check your suggested phrase online before jumping to conclusions. In fact, I found "syndicalisme d’autrefois" mentioned here, at marxists.org:

https://www.marxists.org/francais/trotsky/oeuvres/1929/10/lt19291014a.htm

I am doing this research in the public library on their free wifi, so I couldn't listen to the tape the other day to compare the two suggestions of yourself and Sandra. When I got home, I listened to the tape again, and my own ear tends towards your suggestion "syndicalisme d’autrefois". Since I know I'm dealing with Marxists in this context in Montreal, I'm taking that linked page home to check the information against other materials before I make my final choice.

Thank you so much, I appreciate it!




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