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Thanks for the question, I was speaking in the context of "wiping out" a country from the map. Though all the regional countries consider Israel the main problem but couldn't have wiped it out even collectively. All I was speaking of Israel's power to resist and survive amoung the countries who consider it an unjust state.
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Blooper you have a brilliant understanding of their concerns. James M. Dorsey reports for Alarabiya News Channel
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So please explain to me the difference in any of the other uprisings that have been happening in Egypt & Lybia?
Is it that the Syrian government is better organised against the protesters?
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Tovarish wrote:So please explain to me the difference in any of the other uprisings that have been happening in Egypt & Lybia?
Is it that the Syrian government is better organised against the protesters? Tov, I think there are a few things: a. With stalwart Russian and Chinese and Iranian support, the regime feels confident that it can ride out the crisis. The regime in Libya didn't have a friend in the world save for a few sub-saharan African allies that really couldn't render much assistance. b. For that reason, along with tribal affiliations, the Syrian army isn't fracturing as quickly as the Libyan one did. c. Unfortunately, the lesson of history is that the regime can get away with it. Assad's father put down a revolt with bloodshed that dwarfs the current slaughter. d. This is a suspicion of mine, but my guess is that the Syrian secret police, which had advice from escaped Nazis and also aid from the Soviets, is much more brutally effective than the Libyan intelligence services.
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Tovarish, I see three reasons. One, that HWNN mensions in part 'a' and second that NATO can't risk funding the protesters with weapons as they did in Libya, for reasons of it's dire consequences on their fight against Hammas. Thirdly, the 'Arab Spring' is now considered a fack up rising.
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Jeech,
can you enlighten us what on earth is "fack up rising"?
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China and Russia support Syria because NATO abuse the United Nations mandate in Libya. They don't want to see again the western countries to use UN to massacre Syrians as they did in Libya. It's up to Syrians to solve their problems themselves.
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Any of my information comes from News Bullitons & Al Jazerra,the latest is that Al Quada has offered their support for the protesters.
Makes you wonder who to support.
Teluu why dont you tell us what you really think?
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"They don't want to see again the western countries to use UN to massacre Syrians as they did in Libya."
This is an interesting comment. When and where and how did UN (or the Western countries) massacre Libyans?
Can you share your source of this amazing information, Teluu?
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Jyrkkä Jätkä wrote:Jeech,
can you enlighten us what on earth is "fack up rising"?
From A-to-Z Arab Spring Is FakeMy view on the article is that we too here see the foriegn funded NGOs suspeciously. For example in early 90's an NGO's fake video of oppressed labors caused banning of Pakistani carpets in Europe and America. Other countries like India and Russia has faced similar problems caused by the foriegn funded NGO's. Russia has now banned the NGO's who are run by foriegn aid. The article may infuriate some readers for it's use of language and shocking revelations, but still many readers affirm the truth it reveals.
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Tovarish wrote:Any of my information comes from News Bullitons & Al Jazerra,the latest is that Al Quada has offered their support for the protesters.
Makes you wonder who to support.
There were news of Al Qaida's support to the Libyan terrorists. Al Qaeda, the Libyan terrorists and NATO alined against a soverein Libyan govt. Tovarish, there are many wiered things happening that you hardly would absorb for having a mind in favour of mainstream media. Another incident that's currently happening right now is vulnerable to neglect by the media is that NATO, America, Alqaida and Taliban are killing ordinary Pakistanis every day. Whatere you bring arguments in America's and NATO's favour, you can't deny they are united (i don't find other word in the situation) with those they created them some decades ago.
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Jeech wrote: Another incident that's currently happening right now is vulnerable to neglect by the media is that NATO, America, Alqaida and Taliban are killing ordinary Pakistanis every day. Whatere you bring arguments in America's and NATO's favour, you can't deny they are united (i don't find other word in the situation) with those they created them some decades ago. America, al Qaeda and the Taliban are united???????? Can I have a little of what you've been smokin'?
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Countryboy,
I don't find anyother word than 'united' for their 10 year's constant bombing Pakistan.
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Countryboy,
I don't find anyother word than 'united' for their 10 year's constant bombing Pakistan.
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Jeech wrote:Countryboy,
I don't find anyother word than 'united' for their 10 year's constant bombing Pakistan. Why do ya think these three groups have been bombing Pakistan? Different reasons for each one? Any chance they deserved to be bombed?
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countryboy wrote:Jeech wrote:Countryboy,
I don't find anyother word than 'united' for their 10 year's constant bombing Pakistan. Why do ya think these three groups have been bombing Pakistan? Different reasons for each one? Any chance they deserved to be bombed? No human deserve to be bombed without any allegation be proved. Unfortunately, all the mensioned groups consider themselves rightous enough to be superior on any legitimacy. I don't want to speak on it more to avoid off topics. Thanks.
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To know the facts of NATO massacre, this will refresh your mind NATO massacre in Libya (pictures)
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Do you really think we were born yesterday, Teluu?
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There seems to be more to Syria than meets the eye, the bombing of a nuclear site in 1997?
still dont have spell check on this thing (thing being a tecky term)
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Why did it took so long to Russia and China to see the reality in Syria?
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What do you mean by "the reality"? Please, elaborate. Have they found out "new capital venture" -yet to intregue, there? ;-)
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I don't think so that China and Russia are supporting to Syria. I think United Nation should take any action now it's enough, everyday people are dying there, They need support of United Nation.
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