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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Friday, February 14, 2020 10:03:37 AM

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“There is a powerful force within us, an unilluminated part of the mind – separate from the conscious mind that is constantly at work molding our thought, feelings, and actions.” Sigmund Freud

What does " an unilluminated part of mind"mean here?
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I assume it means a part of our mind that we aren't aware of and that we have no control over. Possibly our instincts, lizard brain or something like it.
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It means deficient in mental or spiritual enlightenment.
Sadly, Sigmund Freud never realized what that ”powerful source” was, for in him there was only darkness...he didn’t know HIM...

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I would agree that the meaning was closer to "unknown", "unexplored", "not conscious of", rather than signifying any particular deficiency.

The use of "the" before the noun "mind" signals that he's referring to the generic human mind. He's not separating out some human minds, nor the thoughts, ideals, beliefs that are contained in some other human minds.

He's using academically objective language, not subjective or judgemental language.
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Ashwin Joshi wrote:
“There is a powerful force within us, an unilluminated part of the mind – separate from the conscious mind that is constantly at work molding our thought, feelings, and actions.” Sigmund Freud

What does " an unilluminated part of mind"mean here?


I think he meant the unconscious, or subconscious part of our minds. Freud was a big believer in that.
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FounDit wrote:
I think he meant the unconscious, or subconscious part of our minds. Freud was a big believer in that.

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Exactly FounDit, Freud’s outlook was of systems of thought attaching prime importance to human rather than divine or spiritual matters...

The opposites of ‘Conscious’, (awake, the sense of right & wrong) are ‘un’ or ‘sub’ because of the absence of ‘light’...HIS light...although Freud hadn’t recognized it, it was that ”powerful force” that woke him up each morning!



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“There is a powerful force within us, an unilluminated part of the mind – separate from the conscious mind that is constantly at work molding our thought, feelings, and actions.” Sigmund Freud

Ashwin Joshi wrote:
What does " an unilluminated part of mind" mean here?


Freud had an intuitive but uniformed grasp of several behavioral characteristics of the mind/brain; however, as there was so little information available to him, at the time, of its actual structure, function, and evolutionary history, his conjectures of causation are largely erroneous.

It seems Freud imagined that outside of the awareness of consciousness or even what consciousness could be aware of, in other words, "an unilluminated part of mind", there was a behavior generating force that mimicked the type of illusory behavior generation we wrongly ascribe to consciousness.

The simple answer is when he says, "an unilluminated part of the mind" he is referring to processes of mind that we are not aware of.

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