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AlyonaSunlight
Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 3:15:26 AM

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Hello!

I'd like to know if these sentences sound natural:

Before they were famous:

Nicki Minaj had served seafood at Red Lobster.
Channing Tatum had dropped out of college and become a stripper.
Rachel McAdams had worked at McDonald's for three years.
Meghan Markle had done calligraphy for weddings and events.
Beyonce had swept up hair in her mother, Tina Knowles,' hair salon.
Tom Cruise had carried guests’ luggage as a bellhop at a hotel.
Megan Fox had worn a banana suit to promote a smoothie shop.
George Clooney had sold insurances.
Johnny Depp had earned money by selling pens over the phone.

Thanks in advance!
FounDit
Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 11:27:21 AM

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AlyonaSunlight wrote:
Hello!

I'd like to know if these sentences sound natural:
Is this a trick question? (LOL) Yes, they all sound natural.

Before they were famous:

Nicki Minaj had served seafood at Red Lobster.
Channing Tatum had dropped out of college and become a stripper.
Rachel McAdams had worked at McDonald's for three years.
Meghan Markle had done calligraphy for weddings and events.
Beyonce had swept up hair in her mother, Tina Knowles,' hair salon.
Tom Cruise had carried guests’ luggage as a bellhop at a hotel.
Megan Fox had worn a banana suit to promote a smoothie shop.
George Clooney had sold insurances.
Johnny Depp had earned money by selling pens over the phone.

Thanks in advance!


We should look to the past to learn from it, not destroy our future because of it — FounDit
AlyonaSunlight
Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 12:01:49 PM

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No-no-no. It’s not a trick question at all. I just see lots of sentences (everywhere) where the past simple is used instead of the past perfect (well, at least I think that the past perfect should be used there).

And looking at such sentences I start to doubt that maybe the past perfect seems a bit redundant?like with this sentence. When I searched this information on the internet, “google” only gave me: “jobs that celebrities HAD before they were famous”.

Anyway, thanks a lot for your help, FounDif!)))
FounDit
Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:40:10 PM

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AlyonaSunlight wrote:
No-no-no. It’s not a trick question at all. I just see lots of sentences (everywhere) where the past simple is used instead of the past perfect (well, at least I think that the past perfect should be used there).

And looking at such sentences I start to doubt that maybe the past perfect seems a bit redundant?like with this sentence. When I searched this information on the internet, “google” only gave me: “jobs that celebrities HAD before they were famous”.

Anyway, thanks a lot for your help, FounDif!)))


I was just joking. The past simple would work also, since all those jobs were in the past. Using "had" simply says they were completed in the past.

We should look to the past to learn from it, not destroy our future because of it — FounDit
AlyonaSunlight
Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 3:26:18 AM

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Thanks a lot!))
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