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Atatürk
Posted: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:56:30 PM

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The labor party is divided on the issue, and the same is true about the conservatives, or so I understand.


Is the above grammatical?

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Posted: Monday, September 9, 2019 5:01:19 AM
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We'd (of course!) shorten it to:

"The labour party is divided on the issue, as is the conservative party..."

If you say that "the conservatives" are divided that actually means that conservative people are divided: which makes one think of them cut in half!

Much more likely is that we'd shorten it even more: "Both the labour and the conservative parties are divided...."
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Posted: Monday, September 9, 2019 5:12:12 AM

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Remember proper nouns.

If these are specific political parties, (of which the Labour Party is a UK party so should be spelt the UK way) then they are proper nouns. There is a big difference between the Conservatives (the Conservative Party in the UK) and conservatives. There are conservatives in any country. What they believe in varies enormously. There are conservatives in the US who make the 'right-wing' parties in the UK look like the most lefty liberals in comparison!

If they are not political parties it doesn't really make sense - you can have a conservative party, the one which wants things to stay as they are, but you don't have a labour party in every country. That is a specific Labour Party with its political history in the Trades Union Movement. Other countries also often have a Labour Party, with its own political history and stance eg Australia, New Zealand that I know of. Other countries might have one that translates as 'workers' party' but that is not a Labour Party. Often a 'workers' party' is more communist in nature, but of course that depends entirely on the country you are talking about.
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Is "true about" correct in the original sentence, or should it be "true of"?

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Posted: Monday, September 9, 2019 6:56:42 AM

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Thar, is it okay now?

The Labor Party is divided on the issue, and the same is true about the Conservatives, or so I understand.



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