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Tara2
Posted: Sunday, September 8, 2019 2:01:46 PM

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Which one is correct?
A: Did you use my mobile?
B: No, I didn't. I promised you that I don't use that Or I promised that I don't use that
Wilmar (USA)
Posted: Sunday, September 8, 2019 6:01:41 PM

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No, I didn't. I promised you that I wouldn't use it.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Sunday, September 8, 2019 8:33:42 PM

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Hi Tara.

Neither of your sentences is correct.
"Promise that" is used with a future tense (usually 'will' or 'shall').

I promise I will not use your mobile.

So if you put that in the past, you end up with "I promised you that I wouldn't use your mobile."

**************
Which one is correct?
A: Did you use my mobile?
B: No, I didn't. I promised you that I wouldn't use it or I promised that I wouldn't use it.


Both of these are correct - there are two other versions, meaning exactly the same, too.
I promised you I wouldn't use it and I promised I wouldn't use it.


Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
Romany
Posted: Monday, September 9, 2019 4:49:33 AM
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To be entirely accurate, I think we should mention that, as the first speaker is specifically referring to her "mobile", the responder would not say "I promised You that I wouldn't use it." but, as you both know what you're talking about, it would be: "No, I didn't. I promised I wouldn't." so really, there's no issue with using or not using "that".
Tara2
Posted: Monday, September 9, 2019 4:42:25 PM

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Wilmar (USA) wrote:
No, I didn't. I promised you that I wouldn't use it.

Thank you Wilmar! ! !
Tara2
Posted: Monday, September 9, 2019 4:43:00 PM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Hi Tara.

Neither of your sentences is correct.
"Promise that" is used with a future tense (usually 'will' or 'shall').

I promise I will not use your mobile.

So if you put that in the past, you end up with "I promised you that I wouldn't use your mobile."

**************
Which one is correct?
A: Did you use my mobile?
B: No, I didn't. I promised you that I wouldn't use it or I promised that I wouldn't use it.


Both of these are correct - there are two other versions, meaning exactly the same, too.
I promised you I wouldn't use it and I promised I wouldn't use it.

Thank you Drago for the good explanation! ! !
Tara2
Posted: Monday, September 9, 2019 4:45:51 PM

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Romany wrote:
To be entirely accurate, I think we should mention that, as the first speaker is specifically referring to her "mobile", the responder would not say "I promised You that I wouldn't use it." but, as you both know what you're talking about, it would be: "No, I didn't. I promised I wouldn't." so really, there's no issue with using or not using "that".

Thank you Romany for the good point! ! !
Sorry Romany, "it" can be used but not "that". Do I understand your explanation right?
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:59:55 PM

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The main point Romany is making is the way people naturally speak.

All four of my answers are "correct" by grammatical rules, but are not "natural".
"Grammar" includes (when you look at it fully) the way sentences are naturally put together by people who use the language.

THE rule for English is "keep it simple" - which means not repeating something which has already been said, or anything which is known already, and not using five words when three will communicate the same idea.

A: Did you use my mobile?
B: No, I didn't. I promised you that I wouldn't use it.
I promised that I wouldn't use it.
I promised you I wouldn't use it.
I promised I wouldn't use it.

No. I promised I wouldn't.


This last one is the one you will normally hear.
You might even sometimes hear "No - I promised!"

So - it doesn't matter for this sentence whether "it" or "that" would sound better - neither of them would be used.

"There's no issue with . . ." means "You don;t need to think about it" or "there is no problem with it", "it is not something which needs to be considered".


Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
Tara2
Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:31:28 AM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
The main point Romany is making is the way people naturally speak.

All four of my answers are "correct" by grammatical rules, but are not "natural".
"Grammar" includes (when you look at it fully) the way sentences are naturally put together by people who use the language.

THE rule for English is "keep it simple" - which means not repeating something which has already been said, or anything which is known already, and not using five words when three will communicate the same idea.

A: Did you use my mobile?
B: No, I didn't. I promised you that I wouldn't use it.
I promised that I wouldn't use it.
I promised you I wouldn't use it.
I promised I wouldn't use it.

No. I promised I wouldn't.


This last one is the one you will normally hear.
You might even sometimes hear "No - I promised!"

So - it doesn't matter for this sentence whether "it" or "that" would sound better - neither of them would be used.

"There's no issue with . . ." means "You don;t need to think about it" or "there is no problem with it", "it is not something which needs to be considered".

Thank you again Drago for the good explanation Whistle
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