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zhonglc2020
Posted: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:21:17 PM
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Hello everyone,

______, the mountain climbers conquered Mount Qomolangma in the end.
A. As the difficulty was great
B. Great as the difficulty was
C. Great difficulty as it was
D. Great as was the difficulty
Key:B

I learned that natives don't like much about "as" or even "though" in such sentence patterns. In China, we have been being taught that "as" equals "though" when they are used in sentences like B. And also we are told to be mindful that "as" may mean "because".

With that, I feel B is correct, and here "as" means "though", not "because".
I have no problem with D because I was taught here yesterday that its word order is wrong or badly out of date. Option A doesn't fit, with "As" sounding like "because."

What about the option C? What are those reasons behind?
(1) We don't know much clearly what "it" refers to or something else?
(2) The above said though-because problem?


Many many thanks.
palapaguy
Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 12:32:43 AM

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zhonglc2020 wrote:
Hello everyone,


(As) Great as the difficulty was, the mountain climbers conquered Mount Qomolangma in the end.

I think the leading "As" is best although a bit formal. Both are fine.

Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 2:32:11 AM

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zhonglc2020 wrote:
What about the option C? What are those reasons behind?
(1) We don't know much clearly what "it" refers to or something else?
(2) The above said though-because problem?

I think the main problem is the "it".

Really, an "it" (as a subject) in one clause usually refers to the noun (subject) in the other clause.

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So "it" should refer to "the mountain climbers" - which does not make sense (this is a plural noun). The only thing which is mentioned which could be an "it" is Mount Qomolangma.

To follow this rule, Mount Qomolangma would have to be used as the subject of the second clause:

Great difficulty as it was, Mount Qomolangma was climbed in the end.

However, this does not work well either - because the difficulty was the climbing, not the mountain.
A mountain just sits there doing nothing, it's not a difficulty.

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The only way I can see to make it work is to make "the climbing" into a subject.

Great difficulty as it was, the climbing of Mount Qomolangma was achieved in the end.
Not the best-sounding sentence, but it seems OK.

Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
Adyl Mouhei
Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 4:20:41 AM

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Yes, the passive in the sentence in red doesn't fit.
zhonglc2020
Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:27:55 AM
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Thank you all.
And especially thank you for your excellent explanation, Drag0nspeaker.
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