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Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2019 12:46:48 PM

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Some native English speakers say that this is correct:

1 It has been a very difficult time in our marriage, but we got through it.

It is seen that we have an action in the present perfect which happens before an action in the past simple. How can it be? Aren't these ones better?

1a It was a very difficult time in our marriage, but we got through it.
1b It had been a very difficult time in our marriage, but we got through it.
1c It has been a very difficult time in our marriage, but we have got through it.
BobShilling
Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2019 1:23:36 PM
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Ivan Fadeev wrote:
Aren't these ones better?

1a It was a very difficult time in our marriage, but we got through it.
1b It had been a very difficult time in our marriage, but we got through it.
1c It has been a very difficult time in our marriage, but we have got through it.


Yes.
Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2019 1:40:29 PM

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Thank you Bob. What do you think of this: "It has been a very difficult time in our marriage, but we got through it."

Can it be correct in your opinion? (Is your English British or American?)
BobShilling
Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2019 2:26:55 PM
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Ivan Fadeev wrote:
Thank you Bob. What do you think of this: "It has been a very difficult time in our marriage, but we got through it."


As a speaker of BrE, I would say "It has been a very difficult time in our marriage, but we've got through it" if the period of difficulty were in the very recent past

If the difficult time were in the past, I'd say "It was a very difficult time in our marriage, but we got through it."
thar
Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2019 3:57:31 PM

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Try to find an example where the past simple and the past participle are not the same form.

This is my opinion on how this seems OK to some native speakers.

People don't write according to grammar rules. They write according to what they hear in their head. What they have heard other people say, and what they would say out loud.

We've got through it.

the 've is so unstressed it easily disappears, and people can't tell the difference from
we got through it

so that is what they think it is

But make it another verb...

It has been a difficult time but we've seen it through

It has been a difficult time but we saw it through

How many people would actually say the second one?
Would they think that tense makes sense, that it sounds right?

My take on it. Just putting it out there. Whistle
BobShilling
Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2019 4:23:44 PM
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thar wrote:

My take on it.


It makes sense to me.
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