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onsen
Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2019 1:59:53 AM
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Hello,

Quote:

budget
noun

A. The project went over budget because of a miscalculation at the planning stage.

over/under/on/within budget
B. The project came in $5,000 over budget.
budget


Q1. How does one specify the amount of 'over budget' in A, e.g. $5,000?
Is it the following?
The project went in $5,000 over budget because of a miscalculation at the planning stage.

Q2. Do the following sentences make sense?
The project came on budget.
The project came in $5,000 within budget.

Q3. When one exchanges the 'went' for the 'came', and vice versa, how will the meaning change?


Thank you.
thar
Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2019 2:49:48 AM

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go/went over
It went over budget
It went $5000 over budget

run/ran over
It ran over budget.


come in (=arrive) on, under or over
It came in under budget
It came in $5000 under budget

It came in on budget and on time.

It came in within budget (ie on budget or a small amount less)
It came in $5000 under budget (how much less)
onsen
Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2019 3:15:35 AM
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thar wrote:
go/went over
It went over budget
It went $5000 over budget

run/ran over
It ran over budget.


come in (=arrive) on, under or over
It came in under budget
It came in $5000 under budget

It came in on budget and on time.

It came in within budget (ie on budget or a small amount less)
It came in $5000 under budget (how much less)


Thank you very much, thar, for your reply.

About 'went' and 'came'.
Do they mean almost the same, i.e.'turned out'?
Adyl Mouhei
Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2019 4:58:02 AM

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onsen wrote:
Hello,

Quote:

budget
noun

A. The project went over budget because of a miscalculation at the planning stage.

over/under/on/within budget
B. The project came in $5,000 over budget.
budget


Q1. How does one specify the amount of 'over budget' in A, e.g. $5,000?
Is it the following?
The project went in $5,000 over budget because of a miscalculation at the planning stage.

Q2. Do the following sentences make sense?
The project came on budget.
The project came in $5,000 within budget.

Q3. When one exchanges the 'went' for the 'came', and vice versa, how will the meaning change?


Thank you.
thar
Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2019 5:30:13 AM

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Went only really works for 'over' - it moved away from the original path that was planned.


'come in' is arrive, end, so it works for whatever happened - as planned, over, under.

Also 'went' doesn't even have to be the end. It can be the direction it is going in.
Eg
The project is going over budget - you need to take far greater control over expenditure.
It went so far over budget that the project was abandoned.



But 'come in' (together as a phrasal verb, not just 'come' on its own) is the finished product.
Of course that can be a future prediction
Eg
We predict the project will come in $5000 over budget.

But that is still a completion. It is not something you can change at this point.
Adyl Mouhei
Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2019 6:21:50 AM

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onsen wrote:
Hello,

Quote:

budget
noun

A. The project went over budget because of a miscalculation at the planning stage.

over/under/on/within budget
B. The project came in $5,000 over budget.
budget


Q1. How does one specify the amount of 'over budget' in A, e.g. $5,000?
Is it the following?
The project went in $5,000 over budget because of a miscalculation at the planning stage.

Q2. Do the following sentences make sense?
The project came on budget.
The project came in $5,000 within budget.

Q3. When one exchanges the 'went' for the 'came', and vice versa, how will the meaning change?


Thank you.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 2:18:50 PM

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Hi onsen.

An example to illustrate all the uses which thar mentions. "The name of the city has been omitted to protect the innocent."

The tram system for the city was planned to run from the airport to the city centre, and then on to the marina and docks. The original budget was £375 million.

By the time they had finished digging up the road in the city centre it had already gone £5 million over budget.

When the line from the airport to the city centre was completed, it had gone £401 million over budget (plus £200 million in interest for a loan).

The estimate for the rest of the line (from city centre to the sea) is a further £210 million, so it is expected that when the project is finally complete, it will come in more than £600 million over budget. The final estimate is over £1 billion.


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onsen
Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 9:30:52 PM
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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Hi onsen.

An example to illustrate all the uses which thar mentions. "The name of the city has been omitted to protect the innocent."

The tram system for the city was planned to run from the airport to the city centre, and then on to the marina and docks. The original budget was £375 million.

By the time they had finished digging up the road in the city centre it had already gone £5 million over budget.

When the line from the airport to the city centre was completed, it had gone £401 million over budget (plus £200 million in interest for a loan).

The estimate for the rest of the line (from city centre to the sea) is a further £210 million, so it is expected that when the project is finally complete, it will come in more than £600 million over budget. The final estimate is over £1 billion.


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