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navi
Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2019 1:32:55 PM
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1) Today we sold twenty sandwiches and sodas.
Could this mean: Twenty sandwiches and twenty sodas?

2) Today we sold thirty ties and T-shirts.
Could this mean: thirty ties and thirty T-shirts? (obviously ties and T-shirts do go in pairs, so they were definitely sold separately)


3) There were thirty big and small boxes in the room.
Could this mean: thirty big boxes and thirty small boxes?


Gratefully,
Navi
FounDit
Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2019 1:45:23 PM

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navi wrote:
1) Today we sold twenty sandwiches and sodas.
Could this mean: Twenty sandwiches and twenty sodas?
It could mean that, but it isn't certain that it's true. To make it true, you would say, "twenty each of sandwiches and sodas".
2) Today we sold thirty ties and T-shirts.
Could this mean: thirty ties and thirty T-shirts? (obviously ties and T-shirts do go in pairs, so they were definitely sold separately)
This would be the same answer as above.

3) There were thirty big and small boxes in the room.
Could this mean: thirty big boxes and thirty small boxes?
Same answer. We can't know for certain if you mean thirty big and thirty small, or a mixture of both.

Gratefully,
Navi


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thar
Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:22:48 PM

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The point is you would not say any of these, because as has been stated, they are not precise.

Either the phrasing will show a pairing
- you sell a simple product - a sandwich and a soda
We sold twenty sandwich and sodas - that is how you would say it, with that phrasing.

The same with the others.
Either you are explicit
there are ten small boxes and twenty big boxes
or you put the ideas in a different order
there were thirty boxes, both big and small.
navi
Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:49:39 AM
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Thank you both very much,

I have another question.

Consider:
4) There were ten men and women at the party.

Well, one meaning would be that there were ten people there in all. But let us assume that there were twenty people there. Would you say that the men and women necessarily formed couples? Or formed pairs is some other way?

Gratefully,
Navi
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