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Koh Elaine
Posted: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 12:28:21 PM
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One of the most important Goshos, ‘The True Object of Worship’, states:

"At that time, the Bodhisattva of the Earth will emerge. Then, he will establish the supreme object of worship..."

Are the highlighted commas required?

Thanks.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 12:35:35 PM

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Hi Koh Elaine.

You must have twenty or more examples now, in which a person's description, then his name, are given in a sentence.

I personally don't know a rule except - if it sounds better with a pause when it is spoken - then it is better with a comma when written.

If others have given you other rules, follow them.

In this case - I think it sounds better with commas.


Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
thar
Posted: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 12:42:33 PM

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Yes. These words are not part of the main flow of the sentence.

The sentence is:
subject verb

One of the most important Goshos states:


If it were a simple apposition you could put the name after the description.

eg
The Gosho ‘The True Object of Worship’ states:

like saying#
My friend Paul says:


but here the subject is 'one of the most important Goshos'. That is more complex. That is not the same as its name.
eg you can't say
One of my friends Paul says:

The name then becomes extra information, bound by commas.
One of the most important Goshos, ‘The True Object of Worship’, states:
One of the most important Goshos (‘The True Object of Worship’) states:
One of my friends, Paul, says:

(I am assuming Goshos is the plural of Gosho. If it isn't then that isn't important, because I was just using it to make a point)

edit
response to Drago's answer
I am not giving a rule, but I think the reason it sounds wrong is that the juxtaposition of a plural noun
.... friends
.....Goshos
with a singular name
...... friends Paul
.......Goshos 'The True Object of Worship'
is just too complex for our poor brains that have to construct sentences fast, in simple chunks.
They don't fit. You have to take the name out of the sentence, and present it separately. You do that with the commas.
Koh Elaine
Posted: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 12:43:21 PM
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Thanks, DragOnspeaker.

I agree with you; I would use the commas too.

Thanks, thar, for the detailed analytical explanation. And yes, Goshos is the plural of Gosho.
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