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D00M
Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:02:59 AM

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Hello respected teachers,

Why should there not be a definite article before "Western Canada" in the following sentence?

More than 500 years ago the ancestors of the Navajo people left the cold northern region that is now part of western Canada and Alaska.

Edited: changed "Western" to "western" to look like the original in my book.

The custom of speaking is the original and only just standard of any language. Joseph Priestly- Rudiments of EG, 1761.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:16:53 AM

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Just one of the ways names are used in English.

Unless the name includes the word "The", an article is not used with a country/state name.

"The United States of America" is a collection of subordinate (non-sovereign) states like Texas, Missouri, Hawaii, Alaska, and so on.
"The United Kingdom" is made up of four countries; Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland; plus some islands and other territories.


Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
D00M
Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:27:08 AM

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I see. Thanks a lot.

Actually I thought it needed the article because of the adjective "western" preceding "Canada".

The custom of speaking is the original and only just standard of any language. Joseph Priestly- Rudiments of EG, 1761.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 10:01:14 AM

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Ah - I understand. It is partly a consideration.
How exact do you (the speaker) consider you need to be before you say that it is "definite"?

"Western" does not define which part of Canada, when used without an article. "Western Canada" is about a million square Kilometres, and covers four provinces/territories.
There are many parts in western Canada. The sentence does not say which one is meant.

One could specify which part of Canada - by saying 'western' and considering "western Canada" to be one single unit - part of Canada.
This defines exactly (in your mind) which part of Canada - the western part.

More than 500 years ago the ancestors of the Navajo people left the cold northern region that is now the western part of Canada and Alaska.

I hope that makes sense.


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