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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:22:19 AM

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Women around the globe should be celebrated for their extraordinary contributions in all areas of society – as professionals, as bread-winners, as caregivers and caretakers.


But we must also focus on the stark reality that women suffer disproportionately from poor access to health services, discrimination, the effects of war, and, at times, victimization by harmful traditions. It is important to keep in mind that behind every statistic listed below, there is a heartbreaking story to be told.

More than 530,000 women die in childbirth every year – tragically, the vast majority of these deaths are avoidable with simple and cost-effective health interventions.
More than 100 million women in the developing world, about 17 percent of all married women would prefer to postpone their next pregnancy or not have any more children but are not using a modern method of contraception.
It is estimated that up to 100,000 maternal deaths could be avoided each year if women who did not want children used effective contraception.
One harmful outcome of unintended pregnancy is abortion – an estimated 18 million abortions take place each year in the developing world, contributing to high rates of death and injury.
In sub-Saharan Africa, approximately 58 percent of all people living with HIV are female. In some countries, girls between the ages of 15 and 19 have three to six times higher HIV prevalence than boys their age.
More than 80,000 women suffer complications during pregnancy including obstetric fistula. The consequences of this condition, when untreated, are life shattering. Many times the child dies, and the mother has lifelong reproductive and urinary complications. But it can be prevented through expanded access to modern methods of family planning, raising the age of marriage and can be treated with proper medical attention.
An estimated 52 million girls under the age of 18 years of age are married off by their families each year. Likewise, several hundreds of thousands of girls and women are trafficked every year as illegal workers and/or forced into prostitution.
An estimated 100 million to 140 million women and girls undergo female genital mutilation/cutting each year and thousands more are at risk.
Despite these startling statistics we know that women around the world have an undying spirit, are surmounting obstacles, and are committed to making their lives, their families, and their communities better. President Obama stated, “…we must also recommit ourselves more broadly to ensuring that our daughters have the same rights and opportunities as our sons: the chance to attain a world-class education; to have fulfilling careers in any industry; to be treated fairly and paid equally for their work; and to have no limits on their dreams. That is what I want for women everywhere.”

The human race cannot progress when half of the world population lives without the same rights and respect afforded to its male counterpart. If you are moved by what you read and want to share, we’ve made it easy for you.

-------- Sandra Jordan

P.S.The 16 Days Campaign to End Violence Against Women: From 25 November to 10 December, USAID posted a blog each day that aims to prove a single point:


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TMe
Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 12:39:53 PM

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Ah! Nobody is interested in my plight.

I am a layman.
FounDit
Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 4:10:28 PM

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Ashwin Joshi

It is true that women all around the world suffer under the conditions you mention( poor access to health services, discrimination, the effects of war, and, at times, victimization by harmful traditions), and I can sympathize, but it must also be pointed out that everyone else also shares in that suffering, from old men, to babies and children, not to mention young males, too.

And I'm not sure what 16 days of activism is going to do to ameliorate that. I know the whole idea of to focus on women, but unless the whole society changes, women aren't going to reap any benefit from simply talking about what needs to be done.

And what is it that really needs to be done? The list of things you mentioned are not going to go away by themselves. But part of the problem with living under such conditions is that the people tolerate it. They make no effort to change it. There are many reasons why this is so, and a few of them are religious culture, traditional culture, superstitions, and some things, such as war, that may or may not be under their control.

But if a society wants the conditions for its citizens to improve, then the citizens themselves have to demand it. They have to work for it. Marching in the streets and carrying signs won't get that done. Talk is cheap. It is action that is required, but as long as people let inertia paralyze them, or tradition stymie them, change won't happen.

If they can see a better way to live, a better system, and don't strive to achieve that system, they will continue to dwell in their current state. Carrying placards won't get that done, and they shouldn't wait for someone else to do it for them. They should do it themselves, or it won't happen.


A great many people will think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. ~ William James ~
TMe
Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 11:35:44 AM

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Thank you FounDit for sympathesizing and be concerned.

Of course 16 days of activism is not going to revolutionize the way we think of , but such periodical initiatives will definitely move the philanthropists and world famous NGOs like Red-Cross to take positive steps for betterment and amelioration of physical and mental pain.

It’s perfectly true that the sufferers are tolerating it. But then the big question is, Why? Is it because they are helpless and handicapped or it is because we, the haves, are indifferent towards their sufferings?

A society that does not raise voice for the improvement of the down-trodden and the poor is as much to blame as the silent suffering victims.
Victims tolerate for many reasons. They have multitude of other problems as such hunger, shelter, safety against animals and pouncing men, poverty, no protection from disease, inhuman and despicable living conditions, pitiable health of schools, inhuman police and on top of it the money hungry and liar politicians.

And you can feel I started this thread on April 16, 2018 no woman responded till I posted again and the idea stirred your mind.

God bless.


I am open to correction.

I am a layman.
FounDit
Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 11:54:17 AM

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TMe wrote:
Thank you FounDit for sympathesizing and be concerned.

Of course 16 days of activism is not going to revolutionize the way we think of , but such periodical initiatives will definitely move the philanthropists and world famous NGOs like Red-Cross to take positive steps for betterment and amelioration of physical and mental pain.
It may move the philanthropists, but any action taken will only be short-term, and when what is needed is a long-term solution.

It’s perfectly true that the sufferers are tolerating it. But then the big question is, Why? Is it because they are helpless and handicapped or it is because we, the haves, are indifferent towards their sufferings?
I don't think it is because the "haves" are indifferent. If that were true, none of the philanthropists or organizations you mention would be there to help, even temporarily. But they can only do so much, and it will never be enough if the people who are suffering don't work to improve their own conditions.

A society that does not raise voice for the improvement of the down-trodden and the poor is as much to blame as the silent suffering victims.
People raise their voices every day for one group or another, but the conditions remain. The reason is because no one, and no one country, has the resources to cure the ailments of every person on the planet.

Victims tolerate for many reasons. They have multitude of other problems as such hunger, shelter, safety against animals and pouncing men, poverty, no protection from disease, inhuman and despicable living conditions, pitiable health of schools, inhuman police and on top of it the money hungry and liar politicians.
All of this is true, unfortunately, but all of it will continue until people living in these conditions are willing to stand and fight for better government, better laws, customs that help rather than hurt. It is a shame it has to be that way, but there really is no other way. Having sympathy is good, and it certainly makes us feel better, but it really doesn't help in the long run, if the people themselves don't do something to change their conditions.

And it must include ALL people, not just one group. We tend to think that if we focus on one group, such as women or children, that this will somehow motivate others to help and that this will change things, but it doesn't. By focusing on groups, it becomes overwhelming — there are too many groups when people are divided up. The focus needs to be on the society as a whole. Everyone must benefit, and that should be the focus, and the end result of change.

And you can feel I started this thread on April 16, 2018 no woman responded till I posted again and the idea stirred your mind.

God bless.


I am open to correction.


A great many people will think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. ~ William James ~
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FounDit wrote:
TMe wrote:

Victims tolerate for many reasons. They have multitude of other problems as such hunger, shelter, safety against animals and pouncing men, poverty, no protection from disease, inhuman and despicable living conditions, pitiable health of schools, inhuman police and on top of it the money hungry and liar politicians.
All of this is true, unfortunately, but all of it will continue until people living in these conditions are willing to stand and fight for better government, better laws, customs that help rather than hurt. It is a shame it has to be that way, but there really is no other way. Having sympathy is good, and it certainly makes us feel better, but it really doesn't help in the long run, if the people themselves don't do something to change their conditions.


It's unfortunate that when forum members try to create awareness by pointing out some issues in society, they get so quickly pushed into boxes and dismissed. Even starting small, pointing out how gendered language can affect people, gets swept under the rug as too "politically correct" and left-wing. Pointing out how a misogynist is elected president gets pushed aside as "boys will be boys" or "locker room talk". Pointing out discrimination on the forum gets dismissed as "impolite" ravings from women who should "learn their place".

On a forum, we're never going to be able to change legislation, but we are able to create more awareness. A pity that when we try, we get dismissed so quickly.
Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 12:59:06 PM

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Lotze1000 writes;

FounDit wrote:
TMe wrote:

Victims tolerate for many reasons. They have multitude of other problems as such hunger, shelter, safety against animals and pouncing men, poverty, no protection from disease, inhuman and despicable living conditions, pitiable health of schools, inhuman police and on top of it the money hungry and liar politicians.
All of this is true, unfortunately, but all of it will continue until people living in these conditions are willing to stand and fight for better government, better laws, customs that help rather than hurt. It is a shame it has to be that way, but there really is no other way. Having sympathy is good, and it certainly makes us feel better, but it really doesn't help in the long run, if the people themselves don't do something to change their conditions.


It's unfortunate that when forum members try to create awareness by pointing out some issues in society, they get so quickly pushed into boxes and dismissed. Even starting small, pointing out how gendered language can affect people, gets swept under the rug as too "politically correct" and left-wing. Pointing out how a misogynist is elected president gets pushed aside as "boys will be boys" or "locker room talk". Pointing out discrimination on the forum gets dismissed as "impolite" ravings from women who should "learn their place".

On a forum, we're never going to be able to change legislation, but we are able to create more awareness. A pity that when we try, we get dismissed so quickly.

Thanks Lotze1000.




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Romany
Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:06:20 PM
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The discussion is about women's issue: and its not political but in General Knowledge.The perfect place to discuss what those issues are.The fact that there are other issues - animal cruelty, starvation & famine, wars, genocide, and so on - doesn't nullify women's issues and there are organisations, government policies, fund-raising and publicity given to all of these issues as well. But in a discussion specifically on one particular issue those other subjects don't have any place.

If one tries to sweep away talk or exposition of women's plight simply because there are other plights around is a basis for inaction of any kind: why even talk about women when there are other groups who need help, says Foundit. Then why talk about/help war victims...because there are starving children who need help more. But why help starving children when there are elderly people who need help...and so ad infinitum until one sits on one's hands and does nothing for anybody or any cause.

And, as this is a General Knowledge forum, it would help if we could discuss all the wonderful, brave women everywhere who ARE standing up, and getting thrown in prison, or standing up and drawing others to their cause, or fighting to change laws etc.

The women of India are making history by getting together and changing minds,laws and societies. The women in Iran are throwing their head-coverings into rubbish bins in an attempt to make the use of them a woman's choice - not a man's edict. Women in Africa are taking strength from each other and raising themselves from a status lower than cattle, to taking their rightful place in society. And women in every country are forcing police, politicians, media to help them stop FGM - the most barbaric of all practices and one which has them dying in droves during child-birth, or condemned to life-time of stench as their ruptured bladders from the procedure (with no anaesthetic!) leak into all corners of their bodies and they are shunned and sometimes driven from their villages.

And they/we have wrought unbelievable change, everywhere, during my lifetime while an American political party takes away more and more rights from women and still makes a storm in a teacup about the "gendered language" thing. Which has been quietly adopted for at least the past 30 years in other English-speaking countries without the sky falling on anyone's head. In fact, schoolkids to-day will never have even come across the "mankind" debate as the word no longer appears in their texts books - nor in some cases, did it do so in their parents books.

Indeed women's plight still has a way to go, even though we have made giant strides our mothers wouldn't have dreamed of. Until women have equal pay; no longer have their genitalia hacked off with rusty knives; can represent themselves in Courts across the world; are able to have sanitary protection so they can attend school; all have access to education; are all allowed to drive; have rights over their own bodies - and wife-beaters are no longer protected by Presidents and/or governing bodies; until then dismissing all their concerns because there are boys and men who also need help, is simply a way of perpetuating women as second-class citizens.

So yes, great idea Joshwin - lets use this particular thread to talk about women - and to spread some knowledge of all that is being accomplished, all that has changed, all the heroines around the world who are facing death, torture and mutilation for refusing to stay silent on behalf of their sisters across the world.

And then, in another thread we can talk about old people, or little boys, or starving children, or skinning dogs alive.
FounDit
Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:47:59 PM

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So tell me, these 16 days of activism against gender violence, did they prevent any female genital mutilation (FGM)? Were fewer female babies drowned? Were fewer female children sent into sexual exploitation? Were there fewer cases of HIV? What, exactly, did the 16 days of acitivism accomplish?

My position was that there was an even greater need: the elevation of everyone in the society out of poverty, out of poor healthcare, out of the violence of rape and FGM, out of exposure to HIV; that mobilizing the whole of society creates a greater impetus, a greater momentum for change.

In the same vein as the axiomatic, “Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day, but teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime”, I was suggesting that all the members of a society suffering under the listed conditions, fight for better living conditions in their country, rather than one single group.

Or, do you (anyone) oppose such a betterment for all? Do you really do anyone a favor by making people comfortable in their poverty through aid, in their mutilating traditions by just just talk, in their often-fatal exposure to diseases by placards? Why would anyone want to keep a population in such circumstances? Is there some benefit to doing so? Well, it occurs to me as I write that, that it does create a never-ending stream of problems that can be used for various purposes. And since there will always be people who are poor and needy, in one form or another, the answer is obvious.

But it takes an amazing feat of mental contortionism to suggest that my desire to elevate everyone is “dismissing” the idea of “awareness”, as Lotje suggests, or “sweeping it away”, as Romany suggests. I suppose that, by now, I should be used to having my words twisted to mean what I didn’t say, but I admit it still surprises me. I thought that mobilizing the whole of society would be helpful, but, by all means, keep your thinking provincial if you like.


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As you can see at the bottom of the original post, FounDit, the 16 days of activism are started by USAID. If you go to their webpage, it says the following:

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The 16 Days Campaign to End Violence Against Women: From 25 November to 10 December, USAID will post a blog each day that aims to prove a single point: The human race cannot progress when half of the world population lives without the same rights and respect afforded to its male counterpart. If you are moved by what you read and want to share, we’ve made it easy for you. Click here to find out how.


Clicking there, reveals the following.

Quote:
5 Ways USAID Is Working to Prevent and Respond to Gender-Based Violence
USAID has provided critical services to over 4 million survivors and persons at risk of gender-based violence

During conflict and crisis, we often see atrocious acts of gender-based violence, such as the selling of women and girls to generate income; demanding sex in exchange for food, water or safe passage; or forcing girls into marriage to meet basic needs or secure a child's future. Between 2014 and 2016, USAID provided nearly $87 million to support gender-based violence response and prvention efforts as part of our humanitarian assistance efforts in countries such as Iraq, Syria, Nigeria, Haiti, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Burma, South Sudan, Mali, Somalia, the Central African Republic, Pakistan, the Phillippines and Yemen.

Through our DREAMS ( (Determined, Resilient, Empowered, AIDS-free, Mentored and Safe) partnership, USAID works to eliminate harmful gender norms that contribute to gender-based violence, and provide vital care to GBV survivors.

Millions of women around the world who have a disability face increased risks of physical and sexual violence. USAID is partnerhing with projects such as Shanta Memorial Rehabilitation Center, which works to promote disability rights, disability inclusive development, civil society strengthening and community-based rehabilitation programs in India. We’ve helped train service providers, security personnel and counselors to respond to the needs of women with disabilities who experience gender-based violence. Through this partnership, USAID provides rights and advocacy training, income generation support and resources for over 1,000 Indian women with disabilities to ensure they can fully live out their dreams.

Child, early and forced marriage (CEFM), like other forms of gender-based violence, is rooted in gender inequality. Child marriage is a human-rights violattion and an impediment to sustainable global development. USAID is working around the world to prevent and respond to CEFM; for example, last year we worked with community leaders to prevent 748 cases of child marraige in Ethiopia. Our work in this area is rooted in USAID's Strategic Vision for Action to End Child Marriage and Meet the Needs of Married Children [PDF, 464K].

(Emphasis mine)

In short, the 16 days create awareness of the issue so people will support USAID's efforts. The results of which I just listed.
Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:47:35 AM

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Your kind attention please;

Back in 1993, following the fall of communism, I was sent twice by the U.S. Information Agency to Russia to teach business skills to women bewildered by the new market economy. Through my volunteer work for the American Woman's Economic Development Corporation, I had previously witnessed the uplifting effect of microlending on African women's lives when given the chance to borrow as little as $5 from Credit Union programs and buy chair-caning tools, seeds or a used sewing machine. With the newly found self-worth, the status of these female entrepreneurs rose drastically within their families and villages: Their husbands stopped beating them, their enslaving mothers-in-law relaxed, their sons grew to respect women, and their daughters replaced their vision of life of despair with hope.
The same bloodthirsty societies, such as Afghanistan, Iran and Saudi-Arabia, that are obsessed with women's bodies' "purity"—and where women are considered property no different than goats—are also the countries that produced the most terrorists and terrorist acts of the 20th and 21st centuries.

Why today, when famine in China is a thing of the past, do mothers abandon or kill their daughters? Beyond the long-seated tradition of preference for boys (women are still referred to as "the maggots in the rice"), many Chinese women's lives are utterly miserable. Poorly educated and often medically neglected since birth, forever cut off from their birth families since their teenage years when given away in marriage, sexually enslaved to their husbands, often ridiculed, beaten, starved and made to serve their in-laws, Chinese women demonstrate the highest rate of suicide in the world. More than half of the world's female suicides occur in China, five times higher than other countries according to a study by the World Bank, Harvard University and the World Health Organization. No wonder that Chinese women do not want this life for their daughters.
What is the answer for this bleak state of global gender discrimination that results in female misery and death?
Women are not the problem, but rather the solution. Had society heeded the now-40-years-old Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women, women—one-half the world's population—would have helped society double its forward move toward development and prosperity.
Source; Internet


And thanks Romany for giving me a distinct identity; Joshwin, I like it .




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Ashwin thank you for such meaningful testimony. Bless you for your work and for telling us.
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Hey Joshwin, I like that name too.

Thank you so much for your work plus explaining how women can pull themselves up by their bootstraps with as little as $5 help.

It is not only the women but concerned men such as you who can help and who do make such a difference.

I just read an article about the millions of young Chinese men who are now lonely and cannot find love and wives because of the one child and it-should-be-a-son policy. This is one case where the reason for abortion is not a good one, but with the one child policy and cultural influences that is what they did.

"Thirty years of China's one-child policy, coupled with a cultural preference for male children, led to mass abortions of girls. As a result, by the year 2020 it's predicted there will be 24 million men with no partner." So fewer children.

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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 2:15:10 AM

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Thanks Hope123. I will relish Joshwin for the rest of my life.

You are not here merely to make a living.
You are here in order to enable the world to live more
amply, with greater vision, with a finer spirit of hope and achievement.
You are here to enrich the world and you impoverish yourself if you forget the errand.



-Woodrow Wilson

('hope'(Hope123?) colored by me)

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Hope123
Posted: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 5:52:31 AM

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Joshwin, this is a link to a group in the US that helps victims of all crimes no matter their gender. It has been in operation for 40 years. I heard about it from Sunny Hostin, a lawyer/ex prosecutor, TV host, journalist, and a very talented lady who raises 4 chickens in the backyard of her posh home in NY.

https://www.safehorizon.org

A man must be excessively stupid, as well as uncharitable, who believes there is no virtue but on his own side. Addison
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Joshwin - I too was appalled at the treatment of women and girls in China. As you might know, I lived there for 7 years and taught at a University in Zhejiang province - the majority of the students came from rural villages. I cried so much in that first semester because so many of the girls showed me their crookedly set bones, horrific scars and twisted, burned skins. And told me their stories. So I started to teach all my students about equal rights and raised awareness.Soon non-students from the city started coming to my lectures and the students persuaded the University to make my lectures and tutorials open classes.

Mainly, the problem had been that no-one had ever thought about equality for women - it was just "traditional" that they were inferior. So I also taught them debating skills and wow! did we have some great ones. I was also the first adult with whom any of them had ever discussed sex - and the idea that women should enjoy it too. And the rate of abortions in the student body began to plummet.

After discussing it with them I made doing volunteer work (a thing most of them had never even considered) represent 10% of their semester marks.

By the time I left there were organisations in the city, as well as on campus, set up to help old people; girls and women were going into business on their own; the boys started to look at women differently and were part of this "revolution"; and eventually I was presented with an award from the Chinese Gov. for my "work for the Upliftment of the Chinese Youth"...after which all of these things we'd put in place took on a life of their own: - so the students themselves built on those original days and spread more without even needing me at all!

I'm so damn proud of those young people and the way they changed a whole way of thinking. And, as I said, it was only because none of them had ever heard or thought about gender equality. So too I introduced them to the history of Chinese women and the role models which none of them had ever been taught about. I still hear from many of them and they have all done both me, and their University, proud!

That's why I value discussion, and raising awareness, and finding the truth - something it appears you also value. I also know, from experiences all round the world, that one person CAN make a difference. YOU are one of those people.

I've met hundreds of these kinds of wonderful people all over the world - which is why I have faith in humanity. And I also believe that the more we reach out to women in China, India, Africa, the more they gain the strength to stand up for themselves, by simply learning that it IS possible.

Keep standing tall - you're a valuable person. And know that not just Hope but I too, respect and am grateful to you.
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Posted: Friday, May 18, 2018 1:19:28 PM

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Romany wrote:


By the time I left there were organisations in the city, as well as on campus, set up to help old people; girls and women were going into business on their own; the boys started to look at women differently and were part of this "revolution"; and eventually I was presented with an award from the Chinese Gov. for my "work for the Upliftment of the Chinese Youth"...after which all of these things we'd put in place took on a life of their own: - so the students themselves built on those original days and spread more without even needing me at all!


And this was exactly the point I was trying to make. Old people, girls, women, and young boys were all changing their attitudes and looking at things differently. It is precisely what I meant when I said the whole society needed help, not just women.

And how did you do it? Not by focusing on violence against women, but by including everyone in the idea of all being equal, males and females; by pointing them outward in volunteer work, helping others whether male of female. This was exactly the point I was trying to make: it takes everyone to lift everyone.

The focus should not be on only one group. Focusing on violence against women puts the males in the society in the camp of the enemy, and makes them feel that way. You aren't likely to get very far with that campaign.

But when everyone is included and made to feel they are making the whole society better, progress can be see, as you experienced.

Congratulations on your success!




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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:46:28 AM

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Hats off to you Romany, for the excellent and tremendous work done by you for the betterment of the miserable people. You must be feeling on cloud 9 when you hear from them of their present life; that is a blessing directly from the Almighty. That is the real happiness when one’s head bows with instant thankfulness to the Almighty. Presently I am about 68, my health is an impediment. But still I had done as much as I could in the past many years.


FounDit sir ye r right with your concept but it’s a bit , I repeat, a bit distracting. Lets take the problems one at a time.


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Why thank you, Ashwin. I didn't tell the anecdote to boast or anything: just to prove that, if you empower women, you can change the world!!

(And yeah - some of them make me feel so proud I could just burst!!)
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