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Medicine Vs Surgery. Options
TMe
Posted: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 11:30:56 AM

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Prominent life saving procedures today in the world are treatment with medicine and surgical procedures.

I am unable to conclude as which one is more advanced. Can you please hep me?


My considered opinion is that surgery is more advanced.

I am a layman.
jacobusmaximus
Posted: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 11:39:06 AM

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TMe wrote:
Prominent life saving procedures today in the world are treatment with medicine and surgical procedures.

I am unable to conclude as which one is more advanced. Can you please hep me?


My considered opinion is that surgery is more advanced.


I wouldn't say so. A surgical procedure could be a minor operation, like the removal of a wart, whereas medical treatment could be as advanced as chemotherapy.

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Wilmar (USA)
Posted: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 2:23:14 PM

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I don't think it's a matter of which is more advanced. Medicine and surgery are not degrees of the same thing.
FounDit
Posted: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 4:12:35 PM

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Wilmar (USA) wrote:
I don't think it's a matter of which is more advanced. Medicine and surgery are not degrees of the same thing.


I agree, but the primary reason for the inability is that there is no standard by which to measure. For one to say medicine or surgery is the more advanced, there would have to be a starting point from which to evaluate both.


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towan52
Posted: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 9:26:34 PM

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When you put it like that, apples are much better than oranges but fruit is usually good!

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FounDit
Posted: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 10:38:47 PM

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towan52 wrote:
When you put it like that, apples are much better than oranges but fruit is usually good!


Ha, ha, ha. True, but I actually prefer tangerines to both.


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Articulate Dreamer
Posted: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 11:50:58 PM

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The dichotomy of medicine and surgery is itself an artifact.
Many of the procedures a physician (specialist in Medicine) carries out ( not new ones at all, mind!) like a pleural tap or tapping fluid from the abdomen, are strictly speaking surgical; so too surgeons do prescribe medications, and this should fall in the category of Medicine, not surgery.
As a practising doctor I would say both have made fantastic advances in the last half century and I find it impossible to have one on the prime place on the victory stand.

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leonAzul
Posted: Thursday, April 5, 2018 4:16:57 PM

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Articulate Dreamer wrote:
The dichotomy of medicine and surgery is itself an artifact.
Many of the procedures a physician (specialist in Medicine) carries out ( not new ones at all, mind!) like a pleural tap or tapping fluid from the abdomen, are strictly speaking surgical; so too surgeons do prescribe medications, and this should fall in the category of Medicine, not surgery.
As a practising doctor I would say both have made fantastic advances in the last half century and I find it impossible to have one on the prime place on the victory stand.


Well said, yet it must be observed that the most advanced modality is the one which yields the best outcome. Aspirin or penicillin won't do much to repair a laceration, although either could be useful to prevent further complications. Surgical lobotomy has long been deprecated for the treatment of neuropathologies. There are daily advancements in both surgery and pharmacology that continue to improve our health.

As a language note, the word "medicine" has come to mean all modalities of treatment, including medication as well as surgery and physical therapy.

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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Saturday, April 7, 2018 11:11:02 AM

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Medicine has no permanent cure for Diabetes, Hypertension, Cancer, AIDS, Cirrhosis and many other diseases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incurable_diseases

Wikipedia:

Fever of unknown origin
Classification and external resources
ICD-10 R50
ICD-9-CM 780.6
MedlinePlus 003090
MeSH D005335
[edit on Wikidata]
Fever of unknown origin (FUO), pyrexia of unknown origin (PUO) or febris e causa ignota (febris E.C.I.) refers to a condition in which the patient has an elevated temperature (fever) but despite investigations by a physician no explanation has been found.




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Articulate Dreamer
Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:07:17 AM

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Ashwin Joshi wrote:
Medicine has no permanent cure for Diabetes, Hypertension, Cancer, AIDS, Cirrhosis and many other diseases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incurable_diseases

Wikipedia:

Fever of unknown origin
Classification and external resources
ICD-10 R50
ICD-9-CM 780.6
MedlinePlus 003090
MeSH D005335
[edit on Wikidata]
Fever of unknown origin (FUO), pyrexia of unknown origin (PUO) or febris e causa ignota (febris E.C.I.) refers to a condition in which the patient has an elevated temperature (fever) but despite investigations by a physician no explanation has been found.



True
But wondering why that's relevant here.... ?Eh?


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Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Monday, April 23, 2018 11:07:54 AM

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That's relevant. Surgery is hitting the nail on the head and the success rate is 98%.
While in medicine it is not so. Physicians, dermatologists, diabetologists, oncologists, cardiologists and other medicos change prescription many a time during treatment. But a surgeon is sure of his job. That's my point.

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