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Oscar D. Grouch
Posted: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 8:15:04 AM

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Hidden camera undercover report reveals the truth about Cambridge Analytica.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpbeOCKZFfQ

Quote:
"Senior executives at Cambridge Analytica – the data company that credits itself with Donald Trump’s presidential victory – have been secretly filmed saying they could entrap politicians in compromising situations with bribes and Ukrainian sex workers.

In an undercover investigation by Channel 4 News, the company’s chief executive Alexander Nix said the British firm secretly campaigns in elections across the world. This includes operating through a web of shadowy front companies, or by using sub-contractors.

In one exchange, when asked about digging up material on political opponents, Mr Nix said they could “send some girls around to the candidate’s house”, adding that Ukrainian girls “are very beautiful, I find that works very well”."


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/19/1750305/-Cambridge-Analytica-Uncovered-Secret-filming-reveals-election-tricks
progpen
Posted: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 8:58:54 AM

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This reaches far beyond the US borders. These people have done much worse to other countries.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/19/boom_cambridge_analytica_explodes_following_extraordinary_tv_expose/

He then appeared to prove that ability to hide in the shadows by discussing the company's work in Kenya. Despite publicly claiming that it had nothing to do with elections in Kenya, Turnbull was caught on tape boasting about the significant role the company had played.

"We have rebranded the entire party twice, written their manifesto… messaging… just about every element of his campaign," he boasted.


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Kirill Vorobyov
Posted: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 10:47:23 AM

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Yeah, Ukrainian girls are alright, that's for sure. I guess that might work for a range of uses.
Peter O'Connor - Dundalk
Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 5:07:49 AM

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Thanks for this.
Helenej
Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 6:11:47 AM

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Kirill Vorobyov wrote:
Yeah, Ukrainian girls are alright, that's for sure.

Sounds like Kirill is commending Ukrainian prostitutes so passionately basing on his own experiences. Anxious
Kirill Vorobyov
Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 8:25:27 AM

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Shame on you
Not all Ukrainian girls are prostitutes.
FounDit
Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 3:06:54 PM

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*YAWN* Blah, blah, blah.
Something all politicians do.

Obama was praised for his doing so. From The Daily Caller:

"In the case of the Trump campaign, Facebook’s allowance for the misuse of its data was an accidental oversight; as far as the Obama campaign goes, it appears that it was completely intentional."

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/19/facebook-trump-obama-cambridge-data/

Just do a Google search on "obama and data". No big whoop when Dems do it, but a cataclysm when anyone else does.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Democrat.

This cartoon is right on.

https://www.nationalreview.com/photos/cartoons-of-the-day-march-21st-2018/#slide-1



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Helenej
Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 6:24:03 PM

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Kirill Vorobyov wrote:
Not all Ukrainian girls are prostitutes.

Not all Ukrainian girls are prostitutes” means “Many/most Ukrainian girls are prostitutes while some are not”.

Is that what you really think or did you just forget to watch your mouth?
progpen
Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 7:15:32 PM

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/crisis-manager-why-is-trump-use-of-social-data-bad-and-obama-good.html

Actually, a very good overview of the difference between Obama's use and Trump's use of big data. I'm not at all surprised that the false equivalence is coming out of the woodwork because it is actually very easy to oversimplify the issue. I also think the fact that political interest groups, corporate interest groups, nationalist interest groups, etc. have been 20 steps ahead of any oversight is reason enough not to use internet resources that pander to these interest groups.

It's all about capitalism. Your data and your privacy have monetary value. All those interest groups know it. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. know it.

The Obama campaign gathered data that was volunteered by the end user, who was fully engaged and knew who and what they were involved in.

The Trump campaign hired Cambridge Analytica, a company that was already known for mining data that had been stolen from users who had not volunteered their data and were never notified that the initial research project had been replaced by a global political entity.

That said, as long as Internet users do not value their own privacy or data, there will be a market for it. When those users begin to put a value on their data and protect it because of that value then the market will look for something else. Cambridge Analytica didn't steal the data of 50 million Facebook users because it was worthless. They were just able to steal it because most of the users thought their data was worthless.

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Hope123
Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:52:10 PM

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Well answered, Progpen.

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One big defining difference! The Obama team did not steal data; they solicited it from people. Obama didn't con anyone to win. Basically Barack Obama's team built an app for his supporters to help get him re-elected, they joined, and he got reelected. CamAnalytica obtained user data under pretence and sold their services to the highest bidder, using the data to create intrusive psychoanalytical predictions. Main difference is that CA obtained data from a personality quiz that was said to be run by a Cambridge academic. Obama app was always affiliated with Obama.

Michael Simon replies to Cambridge Analytica: "I ran the Obama 2008 data-driven microtargeting team. How dare you! We didn’t steal private Facebook profile data from voters under false pretences. OFA voluntarily solicited opinions of hundreds of thousands of voters. We didn’t commit theft to do our groundbreaking work."

Valerie L'Herrou says, "Um, Obama's campaign used publicly-available data. They didn't trick people into giving up their data when they thought they were interacting with their friends. It was demographics, voting records, and shoe leather, asking people what issues were important to them in the campaign--not fake "quizzes" on Facebook. I know, because I was one of those collecting that data. People knew who I was, why I was there, and what they were telling me. Oh and PS, we didn't use sex workers or bribes! Because a) we didn't need to, and b) yeah: it's wrong."

Carol Davidson, who was on the Daily Caller link with the clearly spun story by a far right bias source cited by FD, actually said “We would ask permission to basically scrape your profile, and also scrape your friends, basically anything that was available to scrape. We scraped it all.” If unusual amounts of activity set off Facebook's alarm bells the company was satisfied each time the Obama campaign was not violating its privacy and data standards.

Obama did nothing wrong. This CA company did.

It makes an interesting psychological study as to why every time Trump is called out for doing something wrong, the defence tries to use offence with Obama, Hillary, Bill. Yada, yada, yada.

It must be because there is no defence for using such a company that was known for using such tricks.

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Saw an interesting interview today by an author who says of the tribalism in US politics today that it is not just differences of opinions and policies, but that the brain centres of pleasure actually light up: "We actually get pleasure from taking down the other side." Amy Chua in her book explains why tribalism is creating the divide in US politics today: "Are we really trying to help America solve these problems — or do we just wanna stick it to the other side and see them suffer?"



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Andrew Schultz
Posted: Thursday, March 22, 2018 12:08:20 AM

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Oscar D. Grouch wrote:
Hidden camera undercover report reveals the truth about Cambridge Analytica.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpbeOCKZFfQ

Quote:
"Senior executives at Cambridge Analytica – the data company that credits itself with Donald Trump’s presidential victory – have been secretly filmed saying they could entrap politicians in compromising situations with bribes and Ukrainian sex workers.

In an undercover investigation by Channel 4 News, the company’s chief executive Alexander Nix said the British firm secretly campaigns in elections across the world. This includes operating through a web of shadowy front companies, or by using sub-contractors.

In one exchange, when asked about digging up material on political opponents, Mr Nix said they could “send some girls around to the candidate’s house”, adding that Ukrainian girls “are very beautiful, I find that works very well”."


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/19/1750305/-Cambridge-Analytica-Uncovered-Secret-filming-reveals-election-tricks


Things have to be even worse than that.

I just wonder how much Robert Mueller knows. It must be more than we all do.

I remember wondering why the Democrats weren't as cutting edge as the Republicans back in 2016, after Obama did so well in 2008. Did the campaign get lazy?

I guess we are beginning to get answers.

Speaking of stories being spun, the Russian embassy in the UK tweeted out CA as proof "everyone does it." This is wrong on several levels, but ... sometimes the deception is less believable than in the dailycaller article linked.

It's getting harder and harder for people to play dumb that something very big was going on.

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Oscar D. Grouch
Posted: Thursday, March 22, 2018 6:12:43 AM

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Andrew Schultz wrote:
Speaking of stories being spun, the Russian embassy in the UK tweeted out CA as proof "everyone does it." This is wrong on several levels, but ... sometimes the deception is less believable than in the dailycaller article linked.


That is a very clear admission of guilt by the Russians.
progpen
Posted: Sunday, April 1, 2018 12:10:06 PM

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This kind of thing may be happening in Germany as well. I don't think the practice is uncommon.

http://www.dw.com/en/deutsche-post-sold-voter-microtargeting-data-to-cdu-and-fdp/a-43218488

The Sunday edition of the national broadsheet Bild reported that Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) and the center-right Free Democrats (FDP) purchased "more than a billion" of pieces of personal data about potential voters from a subsidiary of Deutsche Post in the run-up to Germany's national election in September.

The data was reportedly anonymized but contained enough information for the parties to determine, for instance, the general political leanings of residents of a building. Officials from Deutsche Post, which is still partly publicly owned, have refused to comment, but the two political parties have confirmed that they did acquire the data, which included such information as disposable income, level of education and whether the people concerned owned cars.


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