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Koh Elaine
Posted: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 6:10:22 AM
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A.l. face recognition process can be done in 0.008 seconds/second.

Which is the correct word and why?

Thanks.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 7:51:49 AM

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There is no real 'logic', I don't think.

It is simply 'convention'.

A.I. face recognition process can be done in 0.008 seconds.

A.I. face recognition process can be done in eight thousandths of a second.

Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
Koh Elaine
Posted: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:18:23 AM
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Thanks, DragOnspeaker.
thar
Posted: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:31:28 AM

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I think the logic is - if the number is 1 and can therefore be replaced by 'a' it is singular.

If the number is anything except 1, and that includes 1.0, it is not 'a second' it is a number of seconds.

....in 1 second
.....in 1 ms ("in one millisecond")


....in 2 seconds
....in 0.008 seconds
....in 1.0 seconds ("one point nought seconds")


Though I would prefer 8 ms. Whistle


You know "second" is a very silly word. By the end of this it looked so wrong to me I had to check I was spelling it right! d'oh!
Koh Elaine
Posted: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:43:38 AM
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Thanks, thar.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:54:04 AM

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thar wrote:
I think the logic is . . .
You know "second" is a very silly word. By the end of this it looked so wrong to me I had to check I was spelling it right!
d'oh!

That logic looks very good.
If it's "one" it's singular. Any other description makes it plural.

I remember a year or two back, when I was reading the early "quantification" theses from the 1970s to help answer A Cooperator's questions about determiners. There are apparently one or two languages which use the singular for one or two and plural for three and above. There's even mention of one which uses one inflection for 'one or two', a different one for 'three or four' and a third inflection for 'four or above'. d'oh!

I have the same problem with the word "such".
I KNOW how to spell it, but it always makes me feel that I've spelled it wrong, somehow - like it should have a 't' in the middle - "sutch". Must be some deep philosophical or psychological reason for it all.

Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
georgew
Posted: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 2:00:34 PM
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I prefer 1E-03 sec.
thar
Posted: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 3:25:01 PM

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I like the Australian Aboriginal 'one, two, three, many'.
(Don't know if that is true, bit I like the concept. I mean, do you really need to quantify everything so precisely?)


Having seen a cat move their kittens, or try to round up their wandering litter, I see it in action. You start off with 'many' and end up with 'many' - and if one or two are left en route they will be found eventually. Whistle

In Icelandic numbers have gender
einn - ein - eitt; tveir - tvær - tvö; þrír - þrjár - þrjú; fjórir - fjórar - fjögur
And case agreement

After that pretty standard, except 21, 31 etc - they are 'and one' so take a singular noun. It is logical because it is 'and one' - but I don't think Germanic languages have the same thought process.

Also the units can be singular or plural
- hundrað / eitt hundrað (one hundred); tvö hundruð (two 'hundreds').

But numbers can also be plural if you are talking about one of multiple things -
tvennir skór – two pairs of shoes (plural two)
tveir skór - two shoes which are not a pair (singular two)


So, for 'thirty-one', for example - þrjátíu og einn, you have different endings for
masculine, feminine, neuter; nominative, accusative, dative, genitive; singular and plural.

Makes English seem not quite so frustrating to learn, huh? It may be ridiculously illogical in some ways but at least it keeps numbers simple.Whistle

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