The Free Dictionary  
mailing list For webmasters
Welcome Guest Forum Search | Active Topics | Members

NRA should be a proscribed organization? Options
towan52
Posted: Thursday, March 1, 2018 4:41:23 PM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 8/28/2012
Posts: 1,701
Neurons: 164,275
Location: Midland, Texas, United States
The NRA should be classified as a domestic sponsor of terrorism - Discuss ...

"Today I was a hero. I rescued some beer that was trapped in a bottle"
mactoria
Posted: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:09:27 AM
Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 8/13/2014
Posts: 547
Neurons: 1,169,777
Location: Stockton, California, United States
I think this suggestion is overheated. NRA members on a whole support at least some level of reasonable gun safety and sanity; the leaders of the NRA, well-paid lobbyists, are shrieking harpies who are espousing rhetoric that seem to be reckless and dangerous.

What I do think is that the NRA and many other organizations on either side of all political divides supporting a number of different 'causes' or supposed religions need to have their non-profit statuses reviewed. For instance, the NRA is really a lobbyist for the arms manufacturers. The original idea of the US giving organizations that 'do good' a tax break' was admirable and a good thing, a way to ensure that needs of citizens (especially that might be overlooked because of their relative size) could be met through tax-deductible donations. But a long time ago groups that are really partisan, charlatans, or any number of non-charitable characteristics figured out how easy it is to get a non-profit tax-deductible status, and thus collect a lot of money through donations or make money through supposed fundraisers or even selling products.

Though I doubt it will ever happen, I think that all non-profit organizations (NRA included) need to be reviewed for whether they are truly charitable or actually fronts, and a new tighter definition of what qualifications an organization/church needs to be should be legislated. If that happened, I'm sure the US treasury would pull in more taxes from these groups, and it would be clearer to citizens what's a charity and what's a self-serving, money-making entity.
FounDit
Posted: Friday, March 2, 2018 10:34:24 AM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/19/2011
Posts: 8,786
Neurons: 47,279
Okay. The NRA has never sponsored a terrorist, or terrorism. End of discussion.


A great many people will think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. ~ William James ~
towan52
Posted: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:20:09 AM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 8/28/2012
Posts: 1,701
Neurons: 164,275
Location: Midland, Texas, United States
FounDit wrote:
Okay. The NRA has never sponsored a terrorist, or terrorism. End of discussion.


Foundit - you are so predictable ... Whistle

"Today I was a hero. I rescued some beer that was trapped in a bottle"
FounDit
Posted: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:31:03 PM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/19/2011
Posts: 8,786
Neurons: 47,279
towan52 wrote:
FounDit wrote:
Okay. The NRA has never sponsored a terrorist, or terrorism. End of discussion.


Foundit - you are so predictable ... Whistle


Thank you. Truth usually is...Angel

A great many people will think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. ~ William James ~
progpen
Posted: Saturday, March 3, 2018 6:49:12 AM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 10/2/2015
Posts: 1,694
Neurons: 246,956
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, United States
mactoria wrote:
I think this suggestion is overheated. NRA members on a whole support at least some level of reasonable gun safety and sanity; the leaders of the NRA, well-paid lobbyists, are shrieking harpies who are espousing rhetoric that seem to be reckless and dangerous.


That used to be true. Up until the early 80s the NRA supported strict gun control because at that time they were a hunting and sports association. Not only did the NRA support gun control for much of the 20th century, its leadership in fact lobbied for and co-authored gun control legislation. As a kid my dad and I were members and the NRA was always about gun safety. I grew up hunting, fishing and trapping and at that time the NRA was a resource for instruction on safety.

Unfortunately, this is not about "both sides" being equally at fault about anything. The NRA has become the enabler to a county's addiction to fear, feeding that fear with rhetoric and anecdotes and then capitalizing on that fear by selling weapons. They have simply become the lobbying extension of the US arms industry.

Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
progpen
Posted: Saturday, March 3, 2018 12:04:41 PM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 10/2/2015
Posts: 1,694
Neurons: 246,956
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, United States
I read about and hear NRA members talking about "changing the organization from within", but the NRA no longer makes it's money from member dues, and organization members do not have a say in the lobbying arm of the NRA. There are a few members who are there to put a human face to the lobby, but the members as a whole do not have a say. The NRA is a corporation, just like the Republican and Democratic Parties.

As for the NRA sponsoring terrorism, there is a very quick and easy way to answer that question. If the NRA was accepting money from Russia and funneling it to the Democratic Party and arming Socialists, would it be sponsoring terrorism?

Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
Users browsing this topic
Guest


Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Main Forum RSS : RSS
Forum Terms and Guidelines. Copyright © 2008-2018 Farlex, Inc. All rights reserved.