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Oscar D. Grouch
Posted: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:48:11 AM

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James Clapper, former director of National Intelligence, and John Brennan, former CIA Director, are interviewed on Russia's attack on the 2016 election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPT67XxDEeA
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
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Oscar D. Grouch wrote:
James Clapper, former director of National Intelligence, and John Brennan, former CIA Director, are interviewed on Russia's attack on the 2016 election.

I've listened for 10 minutes out of 22 total. They are talking about the magnitude of what the Russians were doing but do not offer any single example of what they were doing. That is called malarkey.


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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:
Oscar D. Grouch wrote:
James Clapper, former director of National Intelligence, and John Brennan, former CIA Director, are interviewed on Russia's attack on the 2016 election.

I've listened for 10 minutes out of 22 total. They are talking about the magnitude of what the Russians were doing but do not offer any single example of what they were doing. That is called malarkey.


Maybe because that information is classified.
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Some background on the hacking of voter equipment in 21 states.

https://www.csoonline.com/article/3228144/security/russian-hackers-targeted-election-systems-in-21-us-states.html
DHS told most of the states that “Russian government cyber actors” targeted and scanned the systems — including voter registration systems — but not vote tallying software. Illinois admitted hackers had breached its voter system. Arizona admitted hackers stole a username and password of a Gila County election official, but no voter registration system was compromised.

According to statements released by state officials, the other 19 states were targeted but allegedly not compromised. The Washington Post pointed out that Maryland and North Dakota have yet to comment about “the success or failure of any cyber attack.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/russia-election-hacking.html
After a presidential campaign scarred by Russian meddling, local, state and federal agencies have conducted little of the type of digital forensic investigation required to assess the impact, if any, on voting in at least 21 states whose election systems were targeted by Russian hackers, according to interviews with nearly two dozen national security and state officials and election technology specialists.

The assaults on the vast back-end election apparatus — voter-registration operations, state and local election databases, e-poll books and other equipment — have received far less attention than other aspects of the Russian interference, such as the hacking of Democratic emails and spreading of false or damaging information about Mrs. Clinton. Yet the hacking of electoral systems was more extensive than previously disclosed, The New York Times found.


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And the Mueller investigation continues on.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/trump-russia-indictment-mueller-probe-384969
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation has gathered enough steam that some lawyers representing key Donald Trump associates are considering the possibility of a historic first: an indictment against a sitting president.



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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:10:02 PM

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redgriffin wrote:
Maybe because that information is classified.

Probably. :)


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All of the information that has been gathered so far has been rebutted by an equal amount of shrill calls of "fake news", a lot of finger pointing and a whole lot of navel gazing by the Republican Party. And it has led to the lie of the year.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/12/2017-lie-year-russian-election-interference-made-s/

"This Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should've won," said President Donald Trump in an interview with NBC’s Lester Holt in May.

On Twitter in September, Trump said, "The Russia hoax continues, now it's ads on Facebook. What about the totally biased and dishonest Media coverage in favor of Crooked Hillary?"



And during an overseas trip to Asia in November, Trump spoke of meeting with Putin: "Every time he sees me, he says, ‘I didn't do that.’ And I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it."

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Posted: Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:57:48 PM

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A very good write up on the Nunes Memo.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/02/nunes_fbi_memo/

Michael Steele, a former Republican National Committee chairman, cracked a good one on the memo's quality:

The folks at @TheOnion after reading the #NunesMemo have sent a cease and desist order to the House Intelligence Committee for stealing their material.

— Michael Steele (@MichaelSteele) February 2, 2018


If this memo resulted in an in-depth and much more honest appraisal of spying laws in the United States, and the seemingly low bar of proof required by the FISA Court, it might even be worth the damage caused to key institutions.

But there is next to no chance of that actually happening – because the very people who wrote this memo and pushed for it to be published are the exact same people who prevented debate of one of America's most controversial spying programs – Section 702 – and who prevented additional safeguards from being implemented.

Safeguards that would have limited the potential for abuse that this memo purports to demonstrate and is so upset about. The hypocrisy is gut wrenching.

Just to be clear though, this memo does not demonstrate any political bias on the part of the FBI or the DoJ, despite its best efforts. The g-men did their job using the powers that Congress gave them.

And if some intelligence officials didn't want Trump elected president, this whole episode has unfortunately demonstrated why: as president, Donald Trump was in a position to prevent the release of this appalling memo and he chose not to.

He put his own personal goals ahead of the country's. And frankly no patriot wants to see that in their president. ®


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Helenej
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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:
They are talking about the magnitude of what the Russians were doing but do not offer any single example of what they were doing. That is called malarkey.

Well, it is obvious what you are getting at – to say that if they didn’t mention a single fact of the interference, then Russia didn’t interfered. But the interview wasn’t supposed to provide any evidence. There are officials and official bodies to do that.

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Y111
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Thanks for the links, very informative. Now I at least know what all the fuss has been about.
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An amusing tidbit on Euronews from the Security Conf.:

"...Lavrov declined to comment on the indictment directly.
But, he said, even US Vice-President Mike Pence and
others had raised questions about the investigation."


Please help me decide which gentleman is more childish.

Helenej
Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:49:36 PM

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Y111 wrote:
Now I at least know what all the fuss has been about.

Yes, all the fuss is about Russia’s interference in the US election, which Putin has constantly denied (just like he denied the presence of the Russia's troops in Crimea in February and March 2014, in eastern Ukraine and Syria).

Putin denies the interference
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whatson wrote:
Please help me decide which gentleman is more childish.

What do you mean? Lavrov is only a minister, so he can't decide himself what to admit and what not to. It would be childish of him if he imagined that he could.

Helenej wrote:
which Putin has constantly denied

So what? If you are doing something secretly, it's only logical if you deny it.
Helenej
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Y111 wrote:
Helenej wrote:
which Putin has constantly denied.

So what? If you are doing something secretly, it's only logical if you deny it.

The farther a politician is from childishness, the more likely they are to realize that everything eventually gets out and that their attempts to deny their crimes make others disdain such politicians even more.
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