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libaidufu
Posted: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:08:29 PM
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Could anyone please tell me what the term, "heady, whiplash times", means in this sentence?
"Still, it is the journey through heady, whiplash times that helps us understand where the nation is going."

(in the 2nd paragraph in this New York Times article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/books/review/road-to-sleeping-dragon-michael-meyer-nine-continents-xiaolu-guo.html)
(When I googled "heady, whiplash", I found
"fresh and heady whiplash of a social satire ....."
on this page,
https://books.google.com/books?id=eNopJ3sO7IAC&pg=PA58&lpg=PA58&dq=heady,+whiplash&source=bl&ots=gl-YLGT6ih&sig=vt7a1Ib2eZ_DnP6EoAP_t2jdCjM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigg-77saTZAhVH3GMKHfMGAj4Q6AEIOzAD#v=onepage&q=heady%2C%20whiplash&f=false .)

Thanks.
thar
Posted: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:22:01 PM

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What have you found as definitions for the two words individually?

Then you have to make a mental image of what that means, in terms of living through recent history.

They are used metaphorically.

So, what does each word mean?

'Heady' probably only has one meaning, so that is quite simple.

You will have to decide which meaning of 'whiplash' fits here.

Is it a neck injury from car crash, or lashing a whip. What do you think?
libaidufu
Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17:43 PM
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Thar, Thank you for the reply and for your help.

In fact, right now I am still not 100% sure about the meaning of the word, "heady", in that sentence, "Still, it is the journey through heady, whiplash times that helps us understand where the nation is going."
(Since there is a comma between "heady" and "whiplash", "heady, whiplash" does not mean "heady but whiplash", right?)
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At different websites (including the following),
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/heady
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/325952/heady-does-this-word-mean-what-i-think-it-means
https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/heady

, I found the following definitions of the word, "heady".
Then I found some examples.

(I)
Impetuous; rash; willful

“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.” (II Timothy 3:1-4, KJV)

(II)
tending to affect the mind or senses; strongly affecting the mind or senses
a heady smell, drink etc. is pleasantly strong and seems to affect you strongly
(of alcoholic drink) intoxicating


“There is a distinct difference in the quality. Well in India, we have a theory, which is very much accepted by the government bureaucracy and all those who matter, that poor people deserve poor solutions and absolutely poor people deserve pathetic solutions. This, combined with a Nobel Prize-worthy theory that the cheapest is the most economic, is the heady cocktail that the poor are forced to drink.”
(https://ted2srt.org/talks/joe_madiath_better_toilets_better_life)

(III)
extremely exciting; having an exhilarating effect
very exciting in a way that makes you feel as if you can do anything you want to


“In Tunisia as in many other brotherly and friendly countries, we are going through very heady but promising transitional times.”
(Page 3 of
http://www.who.int/nmh/events/un_ncd_summit2011/5th_plenary_meeting.pdf)

“Distinguished brothers and sisters, in the heady days of pan Africanism, when the furious winds of change blew across Africa, our African colleagues insisted that they did not want to be well governed or badly governed.”
(Page 65 of
https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/415875/files/A_54_23-EN.pdf)

“He had seen the movement swell to more than nine million members in the heady days after the August 1980 Gdansk Shipyard strike – and, like the rest of the movement’s leadership, had been interned when General Wojciech Jaruzelski declared martial law and banned Solidarity 16 months later.”
(https://www.neweurope.eu/article/mazowieckis-miracle/)

“In short, many central bankers who served in the heady pre-crisis years have much to answer for.”
(https://www.socialeurope.eu/the-changing-of-the-monetary-guard)

“Looking at the situation of civil society at the end of 2011, the United Nations representative of CIVICUS said that the heady optimism of the 1990s that had followed the fall of the Berlin Wall, and its promise of a global wave of democracy and freedom, were quickly followed by a decade of the war on terror used as an excuse to restrict freedom of information, expression and assembly.”
(Page 16 of http://archive.ipu.org/cnl-e/190/7(c)-r1.pdf)

“Against that background, it is hard to believe that we will quickly return to the heady growth in financial assets, credit, and risk we saw from the 1970’s to 2007.”
(http://www.newtimes.co.rw/section/read/23167/)

“There is no doubt that gold’s heady rise to the peak, from around $350 per ounce in July 2003, had investors drooling.”
(http://www.businessinsider.com/rogoff-golden-slumbers-2013-7)

“More troubling still is that Libya’s violence reveals certain features of the Middle East that had been forgotten after the heady success in Tunis and Cairo.”
(http://www.almotamar.net/en/8628.htm)

#### I have one question:
In this sentence, may the word, “heady”, be used in front of “anti-war protest”?
“Understanding the politics of globalization means that it is wrong to simply dismiss the anti-globalization protests as the machinations of disgruntled ex-hippies nostalgic for the heady days of anti-war protest.”
(Page 6 of
http://www.internationalhumanrightslexicon.org/hrdoc/docs/globalizationsubcommission.pdf.)

(IV)
having, showing, or using intelligence or good judgment; intellectually demanding

“Lusophone culture sometimes runs the risk of being this cover up of a violent past, a political correctness with the rhetoric of heady interculturality, which gives us the sensation of being in a space truly concerned with the fundamental questions of how to live with the Other.”
(https://globalvoices.org/2011/01/21/lusophone-culture-buala-gives-voice-to-contemporary-african-cultures/)

“This is academic and heady stuff.”
(06:50 https://www.ted.com/talks/marc_kushner_why_the_buildings_of_the_future_will_be_shaped_by_you/transcript?nolanguage=no)

“a heady mix of Ph.D-level pure mathematics and ……”
(00:00 https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_spencer_why_i_fell_in_love_with_monster_prime_numbers/transcript?utm_source=facebook.com&awesm=on.ted.com_e0SEF&utm_medium=on.ted.com-facebook-share&utm_campaign=&utm_content=awesm-publisher&language=en)

"It was that sort of heady question about what counts that led me to ….."
(06:44
https://www.ted.com/talks/chip_conley_measuring_what_makes_life_worthwhile/transcript)

"heady stuff" is an idiom here meaning "intellectual".
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/heady-stuff.563925/











libaidufu
Posted: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:29:59 PM
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Hope that someone would help me by answering this question:

On Feb. 7, 2018, I read somewhere online that "heady, whiplash" in the following sentence was translated into 8 simple Chinese words, obviously meaning "exciting and painful". Is this translation correct?
"Still, it is the journey through heady, whiplash times that helps us understand where the nation is going."
(https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/books/review/road-to-sleeping-dragon-michael-meyer-nine-continents-xiaolu-guo.html)
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:51:29 AM

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Hello libaidufu.

I think that you are possibly using dictionaries which are too complex for your needs. If you need a translating dictionary, there are several, but most are for purchase, not on-line use.
There are several which I use for any translations I need - it sometimes helps to have a choice.
Cambridge
I have not found the Oxford Advanced Learner's Chinese dictionary online, but it seems good.
My favourite is the Collins, but it does not have a very large vocabulary (it is at "learner" level, so only lists the most-used words)

If you want to use a normal English dictionary (and translate the concept yourself) the three "The Free Dictionary" ones are good.
Take a look at this from Collins (the English dictionary used by The Free Dictionary)

heady adj, headier or headiest
1. (of alcoholic drink) intoxicating
2. strongly affecting the mind or senses; extremely exciting
3. rash; impetuous


Since 'times' are not an alcoholic drink, it cannot be the first meaning.
Since 'times' do not have a mind and do not decide anything, it cannot be definition #3.

So it must mean "extremely exciting" in this phrase.

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"Whiplash" is more difficult.

As thar says, it can't be an injury - and there is no real physical whip. It is metaphorical (it gives a "picture" or idea).

It means "quick, fast, abrupt" - things happening and changing very quickly.
whip•lash n.
1. the lash of a whip.
2. an abrupt snapping motion resembling the lash of a whip.


It does not mean 'painful'.

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The word 'heady' is not really used in front of "anti-war protest" - it is in front of "days".

The days of anti-war protest (the 1960s-1970s) were exciting with a lot of things happening quickly (they were "heady, whiplash days").




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