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DJT Will Effectively Legitimize the Ivory Trade by Planning on Reversing Ban on Imports from Africa Options
Hope123
Posted: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:35:06 PM

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Trump administration plans to reverse Obama-era ban on import of elephant trophies from Africa. The government has not actually announced this policy change yet but it was reportedly announced at a wildlife forum in South Africa this week.


Quotes are from Twitter folks who are as heartsick as I am.

"@realDonaldTrump How is this an important policy that helps make America great again? Please understand that reversing Obama’s policies won’t erase @BarackObama from going down in history as the first African American president. The truth don’t care about your feelings." "He is actually only making Obama look awesome. The more vileness he enacts the better Obama looks. Trump has no goodness in him."

"Eric and Don Jr. planning another family hunting trip?"



I didn't think I could despise this man more, but djt just did it by even thinking of doing this. Edited - I swore to myself that I would stop posting about him, but this one takes the cake if he follows through on it.

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Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2017 11:49:15 AM
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Not Brick wall Boo hoo! to Worry,Elephants of Canada're safe
Wilmar (USA)
Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:50:40 PM

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GO Pres. TRUMP!!
We're still with you!!
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:30:21 PM

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Do you have any logical argument to introduce here, or just empty catch-phrases?


Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
Hope123
Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:15:50 PM

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I just consider the sources, Drago.

There are now 41,415 species on the IUCN Red List, and 16,306 of them are endangered species threatened with extinction. This is up from 16,118 last year. This includes both endangered animals and endangered plants. Current extinction rates are up to a thousand times higher than they would be if people weren't in the picture.

The world needs more people with empathy for other people and other sentient creatures, i.e, animals, because without them to protect the esrth, at some point the world would no longer be inhabitable and eco systems would no longer support even the most dangerous animal on the earth, humans.

And some humans are more dangerous than others.






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Hope123
Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:35:38 PM

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"We humans sometimes forget that we are animals. We’re mammals, and like all mammals, and indeed all animals, we are connected to and dependent on the web of life. When part of that web is in danger, we are all in danger...(anyone who thinks) we can survive such a rending of the web of life as the extinction of one quarter of all mammal species, (is) ...living in dreamland.

https://www.straight.com/article-166093/david-suzuki-when-mammals-are-threatened-we-are-threatened

And that web is indeed in danger - but can still be fixed if we don't wait too long.

"We have to make some big changes in the way we do things on this finite planet. We can’t just keep destroying habitat, polluting water and air, and killing fish and other animals faster than they can reproduce. And because we are all connected to this fragile web, we need to protect animals and their habitat not just for their sake, but for our own as well."


Elitism is the slur directed at merit by mediocrity. -Sydney J. Harris, journalist (14 Sep 1917-1986)
Hope123
Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2017 5:23:19 PM

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What kind of message does it send to say to the world that poor Africans who are struggling to survive cannot kill elephants in order to use or sell their parts to make a living, but that it's just fine for rich Americans to slay the beasts for their tusks to keep as trophies?" Pacelle asked.

But the move was quickly praised by groups that champion big-game trophy hunting, including Safari Club International and the lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association. The two groups had sued to challenge the ban in court.

Chris Cox, executive director of the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action, called the action "a significant step forward in having hunting receive the recognition it deserves as a tool of sound wildlife management, which had been all but buried in the previous administration."

President Donald Trump's two adult sons are avid trophy hunters. A photo of Donald Trump Jr. holding a knife and the bloody severed tail of an elephant he reportedly killed in Zimbabwe in 2011 has sparked outrage among animal rights activists.


Killing them for trophies is going to save them. Yeah, right. Of course they have no vested interest in it. Brick wall Brick wall

Rationalization that NRA members will buy hook line and sinker.

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Romany
Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 5:37:54 AM
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Hope - for the 12 days Trump was away I read only the news and op-eds from the countries he was visiting.

He has now, in his inimitable way, pulled America off the world stage while China and Germany have stepped in to fill up the hole where America used to be.

Those 12 days were the USA's swan song in the mind of Asia. His much-trumpeted "isolationism" has always been interpreted as an abdication of power, and his behaviour has proved his unfitness for a world stage. He might still be a big frog in the pond of his own country - but he is now the smallest, most embarrassing tadpole in the grown-up lake of global power.

The very fact that everyone from Xi onwards discussed how to handle him; and that they all knew that to give him lots of shiny things to look at and parades to imagine were in his "honour", was all they really had to do; speaks volumes. The fact that it worked perfectly was all the proof anyone needed that the USA was no longer a super-power.

Yet, when he got back and I watched American coverage and discussion, the impact of Trump's visit doesn't seem to be understood. People are talking about how he acted "Presidential" for once - without realising that though the USA may have normalised this dreadful man's behaviour, the rest of the world hasn't. "Presidential" is not a word any other government uses in respect of Trump.

The contempt with which Trump is viewed by his "good friend" Xi, though clear to all of Asia, also seems to have escaped American notice, too. The Chinese are fabulous at providing parades and banquets and entertainment - they can do it in their sleep. The fact that the President of a visiting country could be influenced by these gaudy trappings to the extent that he will 'trust' the provider of them and will favour them, is causing chuckles everywhere.

But this? There's no possible explanation for this other than pure, malicious, personal spite. That a person could even entertain the thought of what he proposes - and for the puerile reason of personal vendetta against his predecessor = is another proof to the globe of why he is the Pariah of the First World.
Hope123
Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 10:38:45 AM

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True, Romany. Spite and so his sons can bring back their big game trophies.

But others can help Ellen de Generes in her fight by tweeting as described below.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/17/ellen-degeneres-donald-trump-encouraging-americans-kill-elephants/

The video on the link explains the following tweet.

Please retweet & use #BeKindToElephants, and for everyone who does, we’ll make a donation to The David Sheldrick Wildlife Trust. @DSWT
7:50 PM - Nov 16, 2017
3,491 3,491 Replies
101,327 101,327 Retweets
58,237 58,237 likes


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Romany
Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 12:46:30 PM
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Good idea to post Ellen's details - and, fortunately she's not alone: Twitter is alive and loud from countries all over the world over this latest ploy.

Needless to say the African countries concerned are not powerless or without allies - having a bunch of foreigners set on further raping their countries (which, after all, are most full of black people, so they don't count to the Trumps) is gaining them support from all over the world.
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