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cheekyme
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What comes to your mind when you hear it?

I often want to describe someone as a skilled person saying “well rounded”, but avoid the phrase not to be misunderstood, offend anyone or create an awkward situation. I like the definition, but always anxious I might be misunderstood and rarely use it as a result -- sometimes just don't want to elaborate and simply sum a person up in a short way. Think

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hedy mmm
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Hi cheekyme,
Firstly, welcome to TFD! Applause

Secondly, I'd stay away from 'well rounded' also. When I saw the title of the post, I immediately thought the topic was of a woman's body as being well rounded. Not that I'm even thinking of women...geez, I'm a woman myself who believes "so many men, so little time" (a May West quote)

I think it can be awkward, as well as, misunderstood. 'Skilled person' does seem to 'sum up a person in a short way'.
Not knowing where you're from, it's hard to know what it means in your neck of the woods...I'm in New York City, so I would rather hear that I'm talented, learned, intellectual, streetwise, as well as, well rounded ... I'm never offended with the last description after the first four.
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NKM
Posted: Friday, November 10, 2017 10:55:42 PM

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I'm not from New York City, and I'm not a woman, so my perspective is somewhat different from Hedy's. When I hear someone described as "well-rounded" I take it to mean intelligent, capable and personable.

Of course it can be a crude reference to a woman's figure, but I wouldn't expect that unless the speaker were known to be habitually disrespectful.

almo 1
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I would agree with NKM for me "well-rounded" is a compliment meaning a person is capable , knowledgable and has a good personality.

There may be some who use it to mean something else, but it's not the usage that comes to mind for me.

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Romany
Posted: Saturday, November 11, 2017 4:31:11 AM
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From a woman's perspective - it would not occur to me either that it meant anything else. I'd also just think of a "capable, knowledgeable person with a great personality" as Sarries said.
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Just to make sure there's no confusion:

I am not just a fan of Naomi Watanabe.
I truly respect her way of life.


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By the way:

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/well_rounded


1(of a person) plump or curvaceous.
‘he was dancing with a well-rounded blonde’


2(of a person) having a personality that is fully developed in all aspects.
‘the ability to master a variety of skills is important to any well-rounded person’





Human..Being
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What comes to mind is something that is inclusive and comprehensive of the situation the thing is a part of. It is formed and shaped to be of good use.

A well-rounded meal would encompass bits and pieces all that is beneficial and satisfying.

A well-rounded person has been exposed to other cultures and ways and has balanced the knowledge in a way that allows them to be beneficial.
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Most people add on the words "person" or "individual" to the words "well-rounded", just to be clear. It would only be taken as an insult (primarily by women) if you made it clear you were referring to a woman's figure.


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Romany
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Good heavens - we're talking at cross-purposes here. While I said that no other meaning would occur to me that's just because 'well-rounded' ONLY means one thing to me as a collocation.

But why would it be an "insult"?Is it because some people might think "well-rounded" meant "fat"?

Once again, I wouldn't see it like that at all. It's a very (non-sexual) way to describe someone who has fine proportions, surely - and is 'round' in all the right places? I would find it a rather pleasant comment - especially as I'm not "round" even in the places I should be!!
Drag0nspeaker
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I suppose it is like Hedy says - a phrase to use with a little caution (know your audience!)

I have the same attitude as Romany, really.

Any "well-_____" adjective is, to me, generally positive in nature.
Something 'well-burned' is burned as it should be.
Something 'badly-burned' is burned more than it should be.


Once a rarity, now found in every specialist bakery . . . panini scurissimi.
Also known in Britain as 'well-fired loaves'.

"Well rounded" has positive meanings - as shown in the Oxford - "well proportioned, carefully composed and balanced, fully developed in all aspects" - so if it were to be used about someone's figure, I'd take it as positive too; "not anorexic, well proportioned".


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FounDit
Posted: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:16:46 AM

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Romany wrote:

Good heavens - we're talking at cross-purposes here. While I said that no other meaning would occur to me that's just because 'well-rounded' ONLY means one thing to me as a collocation.

But why would it be an "insult"?Is it because some people might think "well-rounded" meant "fat"?
It could well be taken that way, and in today's hyper-sensitive world, there are many who look for a reason to be insulted. Such individuals would have no problem taking it the wrong way. Add to that the idea that it objectifies a woman's body when used for a female, and you have grounds for such offense in their minds.

Once again, I wouldn't see it like that at all. It's a very (non-sexual) way to describe someone who has fine proportions, surely - and is 'round' in all the right places? I would find it a rather pleasant comment - especially as I'm not "round" even in the places I should be!!

I would agree with you that is complimentary, but as stated above, there are a great many among us who look to take anything out of context and turn it into an offense.


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Romany
Posted: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:52:15 PM
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Foundit,

Well, even if I thought that pertained to where I live (I'm referring to the city, not the entire United Kingdom), I should, for that very reason then, refuse to conform to such a silly scenario. Drago says he's experienced the same thing.People refrain from using the English language correctly "just in case" some deranged individual with too much time on their hands "might", in the depths of THEIR ignorance, tease some far-fetched "insult" in it!

I'd defend myself with the English language in which "well-rounded" has absolutely no actionable policy on the use of the phrase, nor any societal or cultural restraints either!
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Hey guys.

I had exactly the same reaction as Hedy did as soon as I saw the title of the topic; the only thing that popped into my mind was: a woman who has sexual relation with many men.
Interesting fact: such an expression is commonly used in Portuguese, which is my mother language, and I quickly associated it to my language, and indeed, it seems that both languages use such an expression alike.

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You know etc,
Do you run up to plump nuns you see in the street and tell them
that it's obvious that they have sexual relations with many men?
Then immediately quote something from John or the other three?

hedy mmm
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Angel You know who I am wrote:
Hey guys.
I had exactly the same reaction as Hedy did as soon as I saw the title of the topic; the only thing that popped into my mind was: a woman who has sexual relation with many men.

I'm going to take a stab at what I think you are saying, You know who I am...in AE, to say, "...that Mary (or John) has been around", is definetly referring to someone who has had sexual encounters with many woman/men. A well rounded woman has nothing to do with promiscuity or fat...and everything to do with sexual connotations along with other attributes.

BTW
Human..being, I agree with your definitions also, and a big welcome to TFD. Dancing
DragOnspeaker, that loaf of panini scurissimi, looks scrumptious...it reminds me of dark pumpernickel with seeds....yum yum!Drool
FounDit, you wrote, "round in all the right places"...EXACTLY, what I meant...and it's another word for 'zaftig'Applause
Whats etc. you do remain very insulting in your responses...guess you think it's part of your charm.Not talking

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Jyrkkä Jätkä
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I usually tend to like well rounded people, whether they are well rounded or well rounded.
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hedy mmm
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I thought I had known the meaning of "well-rounded" and at first I didn't bother reading this thread. When I saw the subject line of the thread, I thought that some (English) beginner had asked something about a curvaceous woman.

Then I realized I had not known the principal meaning of the expression. Merriam-Webster doesn't say anything about "well-rounded" in reference to a woman's body. The dictionary defines the expression only as:
"fully or broadly developed: such as
a :having a broad educational background, schools that turn out well-rounded graduates
b :comprehensive, a well-rounded program of activities"

My (ESL) conclusion is that "well-rounded" is a slang term when used in reference to a woman's body. In this regard, "well-rounded" could be
interpreted as any of the following:
1. curvaceous
2. voluptuous
3. zaftig
4. hot
5. sexy
6. fat
Am I right about this?

Thanks, hedy mmm, for "zaftig"-- that's a new addition to my vocabulary. I checked Online Etymology Dictionary, zaftig" comes from German "saft" (juice). So, "zaftig" means "juicy".
almo 1
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Zaftig sounds like some kind of onomatopoeia.











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That whole list - and it didn't include the basic POW!




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Wilmar (USA)
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This has turned into the likes of the comment section of various popular advice columns. People are looking to find fault where none is intended, and deliberately twisting statements to cause irritation. It's juvenile behavior and we don't need any more of it than what we already have. Stop it.

Well-rounded is a VERY COMMON expression, simply meaning that the person in question has a set of skills or a background that includes a wide variety of skills/experiences related to the topic at hand. It's a Very Positive thing to say.



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Wilmar (USA) wrote:

Well-rounded is a VERY COMMON expression, simply meaning that the person in question has a set of skills or a background that includes a wide variety of skills/experiences related to the topic at hand. It's a Very Positive thing to say.


One might disagree with you on your statement, more specifically, one from a different region.

The linguistic diversity is a characteristic of languages that seems not to have been mentioned here before; also, it is undiscussable since it varies from region to region; while some might consider such an expression to mean: smart, others, from different regions, might disagree and claim that it has a slight sexual connotation.

Therefore, while I may be correct about the meaning of that word, you can be as well. It's the famous "inverted six looked at by two different people, from two different angles".



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almo 1
Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2017 11:43:37 AM
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almo 1 wrote:















Bull Nakano must be the model for Heavy Flo.

By the way, I was a big fan of Bull Nakano,
and I respect her way of life.


Alundra Blayze vs. Bull Nakano: Raw - Women's Championship



Romany
Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:00:55 PM
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You know -

To be fair, only one *native* speaker sees the phrase as in any way salacious. For the rest of us the "insult" meaning doesn't come into the equation.

And yes, we do talk about linguistic and dialectical differences often. We come from different places all over the world, and some are ESL learners, so we keep trying to stress the differences in different English dialects. Otherwise great confusion can occur!
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hedy mmm wrote:
Hi cheekyme,
Firstly, welcome to TFD! Applause

Secondly, I'd stay away from 'well rounded' also. When I saw the title of the post, I immediately thought the topic was of a woman's body as being well rounded. Not that I'm even thinking of women...geez, I'm a woman myself who believes "so many men, so little time" (a May West quote)

I think it can be awkward, as well as, misunderstood. 'Skilled person' does seem to 'sum up a person in a short way'.
Not knowing where you're from, it's hard to know what it means in your neck of the woods...I'm in New York City, so I would rather hear that I'm talented, learned, intellectual, streetwise, as well as, well rounded ... I'm never offended with the last description after the first four.
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